2025-26 regular season · October 23, 2025
No betting line for this game, so there is no before-puck-drop or fresh-game number.
Penguins at Panthers, Oct 23, 2025: who deserved to win?
The Penguins beat the Panthers 5–3, but the replays lean toward the Panthers: they take 7 of 10 with the same day's form. Luck ran their way: goaltending alone was worth 42 points of win probability to the Penguins.
The biggest swing (P2, 4:36 left): Ben Kindel scored on a snap shot from 28 feet, worth 15 points of win probability to the Penguins.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +72 Penguins very lucky · −72 Panthers
Each team’s own shots from this game, resampled into new games 4,000 times, each a goal at its chance, with the power plays the penalties gave and the pulled goalie at the end: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Penguins win 3, Panthers win 7.
- 1 PIT 4 FLA 1
- 2 PIT 3 FLA 2
- 3 PIT 6 FLA 5
- 4 PIT 1 FLA 2
- 5 PIT 2 FLA 3
- 6 PIT 4 FLA 6
- 7 PIT 1 FLA 4
- 8 PIT 2 FLA 5
- 9 PIT 0 FLA 4
- 10 PIT 0 FLA 5
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before puck drop
No closing line for this game.
Same teams, fresh game
Needs the closing line, which this game has not got.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every shot redrawn at its chance, overtime and the shootout replayed as near coin flips; the shots themselves and every call fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 3,999.8 replays ended
Penguins win 28% of them, Panthers 72%. The line is what actually happened: Penguins by 2.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Penguins by 3+ | 5.2% |
| Penguins by 2 | 5.0% |
| Penguins by 1 | 17.8% |
| Panthers by 1 | 18.8% |
| Panthers by 2 | 13.6% |
| Panthers by 3+ | 39.6% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A post hit in a blowout counts for nothing; the same post with a minute left in a tie game can be most of a win.
| Shooting | Unblocked attempts | Goals | Expected goals | Above expected |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 32 | 5 | 1.54 | +3.46 | |
| 61 | 3 | 4.44 | −1.44 |
Regulation with both goalies in. Expected goals: our model of each shot’s chance from where and how it was taken (distance, angle, shot type, rebound, rush, strength), adjusted for the shooter’s and the goalie’s records. A team above expected finished better or met a weaker night in goal; 75% of the gap counts as luck (why that share).
Calls
Every penalty that put a team on the power play, and every goal taken off the board on review, with what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment. Calls don’t count toward luck by default: who draws penalties repeats from game to game like a skill (how calls are valued). Switch them on below.
| When | Call | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| P1 14:12 | Tripping on the Panthers (Jeff Petry): 2 minutes on the power play | +4% PIT |
| P1 1:00 | Roughing on the Penguins (Bryan Rust): 2 minutes on the power play | +4% FLA |
| P2 11:52 | Hooking on the Penguins (Connor Clifton): 2 minutes on the power play | +3% FLA |
| P3 18:28 | Tripping on the Penguins (Evgeni Malkin): 2 minutes on the power play | +3% FLA |
| P3 8:26 | Interference on the Panthers (Aaron Ekblad): 2 minutes on the power play | +6% PIT |
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 54%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | P1 13:36 | Sidney Crosby scored on a snap shot from 24 feetShooting · 11% chance | +15% PIT | – |
| 2 | P2 13:24 | Rickard Rakell scored on a backhand shot from 7 feetShooting · 9% chance | +15% PIT | – |
| 3 | P2 11:34 | Brad Marchand scored on a deflected shot from 5 feetShooting · 7% chance | +15% FLA | – |
| 4 | P2 4:36 | Ben Kindel scored on a snap shot from 28 feetShooting · 8% chance | +15% PIT | – |
| 5 | P3 17:36 | Sam Reinhart scored on a wrist shot from 21 feetShooting · 12% chance | +14% FLA | – |
| 6 | P3 15:11 | Connor Dewar scored on a wrist shot from 17 feetShooting · 13% chance | +14% PIT | – |
| 7 | P3 8:54 | Brad Marchand scored on a backhand shot from 11 feetShooting · 10% chance | +12% FLA | – |
| 8 | P3 8:11 | Sidney Crosby scored on a wrist shot from 17 feetShooting · 8% chance | +12% PIT | – |
Adjust the assumptions
Think finishing is more skill than we do, or that the calls were luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Penguins 46% · Panthers 54%
- Final margin
- Penguins by 2
- Luck in goals
- 2.2 for the Penguins
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Panthers by 0.2
- Replay with same day's form
- Penguins 28% · Panthers 72% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play from the NHL via fastRhockey; expected goals, in-game win probability and the replays are our own models, fitted on every game since 2018-19 (methodology and validation). Blocked shots aren’t replayed (their location is the block’s, not the shot’s). No betting line for this game, so there is no before-puck-drop or fresh-game number.
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