2025-26 regular season · December 8, 2025
No betting line for this game, so there is no before-puck-drop or fresh-game number.
Red Wings at Canucks, Dec 8, 2025: who deserved to win?
The Red Wings beat the Canucks 4–0, but the replays lean toward the Canucks: they take 8 of 10 with the same day's form. Luck ran their way: shooting alone was worth 45 points of win probability to the Red Wings.
The biggest swing (P2, 4:45 left): Andrew Copp scored on a tip from 10 feet, worth 15 points of win probability to the Red Wings.
Final
| 4 | |
| 0 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +77 Red Wings very lucky · −77 Canucks
Each team’s own shots from this game, resampled into new games 4,000 times, each a goal at its chance, with the power plays the penalties gave and the pulled goalie at the end: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Red Wings win 2, Canucks win 8.
- 1 DET 4 VAN 2
- 2 DET 4 VAN 3
- 3 DET 5 VAN 6
- 4 DET 4 VAN 5
- 5 DET 2 VAN 4
- 6 DET 1 VAN 4
- 7 DET 1 VAN 4
- 8 DET 0 VAN 4
- 9 DET 0 VAN 5
- 10 DET 1 VAN 8
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before puck drop
No closing line for this game.
Same teams, fresh game
Needs the closing line, which this game has not got.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every shot redrawn at its chance, overtime and the shootout replayed as near coin flips; the shots themselves and every call fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Red Wings win 23% of them, Canucks 77%. The line is what actually happened: Red Wings by 4.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Red Wings by 3+ | 5.0% |
| Red Wings by 2 | 4.5% |
| Red Wings by 1 | 13.7% |
| Canucks by 1 | 15.6% |
| Canucks by 2 | 10.1% |
| Canucks by 3+ | 51.2% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A post hit in a blowout counts for nothing; the same post with a minute left in a tie game can be most of a win.
| Shooting | Unblocked attempts | Goals | Expected goals | Above expected |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 32 | 3 | 2.27 | +0.73 | |
| 64 | 0 | 4.85 | −4.85 |
Regulation with both goalies in. Expected goals: our model of each shot’s chance from where and how it was taken (distance, angle, shot type, rebound, rush, strength), adjusted for the shooter’s and the goalie’s records. A team above expected finished better or met a weaker night in goal; 75% of the gap counts as luck (why that share).
Calls
Every penalty that put a team on the power play, and every goal taken off the board on review, with what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment. Calls don’t count toward luck by default: who draws penalties repeats from game to game like a skill (how calls are valued). Switch them on below.
| When | Call | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| P1 4:43 | Cross checking on the Red Wings (Andrew Copp): 2 minutes on the power play | +4% VAN |
| P2 17:33 | Tripping on the Red Wings (Simon Edvinsson): 2 minutes on the power play | +4% VAN |
| P3 4:20 | Slashing on the Canucks (Marcus Pettersson): 2 minutes on the power play | 0% DET |
| P3 2:10 | Holding on the Canucks (Max Sasson): 2 minutes on the power play | 0% DET |
| P3 1:34 | Tripping on the Red Wings (Marco Kasper): 2 minutes on the power play | 0% VAN |
When it happened
Canucks’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 54%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | P1 15:43 | Aatu Räty’s between-the-legs shot from 8 feet was savedShooting · 28% chance | +4% DET | – |
| 2 | P1 5:46 | James van Riemsdyk scored on a backhand shot from 5 feetShooting · 16% chance | +15% DET | – |
| 3 | P1 4:43 | Cross checking on the Red Wings (Andrew Copp): 2 minutes on the power playPenalty calls | +4% VAN | – |
| 4 | P2 17:33 | Tripping on the Red Wings (Simon Edvinsson): 2 minutes on the power playPenalty calls | +4% VAN | – |
| 5 | P2 16:56 | Jake DeBrusk’s wrist shot from 5 feet was savedShooting · 24% chance | +5% DET | – |
| 6 | P2 16:02 | Kiefer Sherwood snap, 23 ft: above crossbar (24% chance)Shooting | +5% DET | – |
| 7 | P2 4:45 | Andrew Copp scored on a tip from 10 feetShooting · 8% chance | +15% DET | – |
| 8 | P2 4:08 | Nate Danielson scored on a tip from 8 feetShooting · 9% chance | +7% DET | – |
Adjust the assumptions
Think finishing is more skill than we do, or that the calls were luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Red Wings 33% · Canucks 67%
- Final margin
- Red Wings by 4
- Luck in goals
- 4.7 for the Red Wings
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Canucks by 0.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Red Wings 23% · Canucks 77% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play from the NHL via fastRhockey; expected goals, in-game win probability and the replays are our own models, fitted on every game since 2018-19 (methodology and validation). Blocked shots aren’t replayed (their location is the block’s, not the shot’s). No betting line for this game, so there is no before-puck-drop or fresh-game number.
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