Week 9 2025 · October 25, 2025
NC State at Pittsburgh, Week 9 2025: who deserved to win?
Pittsburgh beat NC State 53–34, and the replays lean its way: with the same day's form, it wins 8 of 10.
Before kickoff Pittsburgh was a 61% favorite.
Final
| 34 | |
| 53 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +22 Pittsburgh about even · −22 NC State
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. NC State wins 2, Pittsburgh wins 8.
- 1 NCSU 38 PITT 17
- 2 NCSU 34 PITT 28
- 3 NCSU 27 PITT 30
- 4 NCSU 24 PITT 30
- 5 NCSU 17 PITT 27
- 6 NCSU 7 PITT 20
- 7 NCSU 38 PITT 55
- 8 NCSU 17 PITT 39
- 9 NCSU 27 PITT 55
- 10 NCSU 13 PITT 48
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
NC State wins 22% of them, Pittsburgh 78%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Pittsburgh by 19.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| NC State by 17+ | 5.2% |
| NC State by 9–16 | 6.6% |
| NC State by 1–8 | 9.6% |
| Level after regulation | 2.1% |
| Pittsburgh by 1–8 | 20.0% |
| Pittsburgh by 9–16 | 15.8% |
| Pittsburgh by 17+ | 40.8% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance), and what happened.
- T. Butkowski, 34 yds made · 84% expected
- T. Butkowski, 41 yds made · 73% expected
- T. Butkowski, 35 yds made · 83% expected
- T. Butkowski, 43 yds made · 70% expected
- T. Butkowski, 48 yds missed · 61% expected
Penalties: NC State 8 for 82 yards, Pittsburgh 4 for 31 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 9:37 | Illegal Substitution on NC State, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% PITT +1.5 pts |
| Q1 7:30 | Pass Interference on NC State, 15 yards | +1% PITT +0.5 pts |
| Q1 2:05 | False Start on Pittsburgh, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% NCSU +0.7 pts |
| Q1 1:05 | Face Mask on NC State, 15 yards | +2% PITT +0.8 pts |
| Q2 14:36 | Holding on Pittsburgh, 6 yards | +3% NCSU +1.2 pts |
| Q3 14:19 | Delay of Game on NC State, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% PITT +1.4 pts |
| Q3 13:08 | Pass Interference on NC State, 15 yards | +1% PITT +1.0 pts |
| Q3 7:53 | Illegal Motion on Pittsburgh, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% NCSU +0.4 pts |
| Q3 6:56 | Block Below the Waist on Pittsburgh, 15 yards | 0% NCSU +0.9 pts |
| Q3 4:14 | Pass Interference on NC State, 15 yards, wiping out the play | +1% PITT +4.2 pts |
| Q4 7:08 | Holding on NC State, 7 yards | 0% PITT +1.7 pts |
| Q4 6:04 | False Start on NC State, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% PITT +1.4 pts |
When it happened
Pittsburgh’s chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:14 | Pittsburgh converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +4% PITT | PITT: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 7:47 | Pittsburgh converted 3rd & 133rd & 4th downs · 24% expected | +5% PITT | PITT: Field goal |
| 3 | Q2 14:36 | Holding on Pittsburgh, 6 yardsJudgment calls | +3% NCSU | NCSU: Punt |
| 4 | Q2 12:29 | NC State converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 53% expected | +3% NCSU | NCSU: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 10:41 | NC State was stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 44% expected | +3% PITT | NCSU: Punt |
| 6 | Q2 9:40 | Pittsburgh converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 44% expected | +4% PITT | PITT: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q2 1:20 | Pittsburgh converted 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 64% expected | +4% PITT | PITT: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 13:13 | Pittsburgh converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +3% PITT | PITT: Field goal |
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
NC State 30% · Pittsburgh 70%
- Final margin
- Pittsburgh by 19
- Luck in points
- 15.4 for Pittsburgh
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Pittsburgh by 3.6
- Replay with same day's form
- NC State 22% · Pittsburgh 78% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and expected points from CollegeFootballData.com via cfbfastR; win probability from our own model of the score, the possession and the betting line; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record. College play-by-play has no charting of drops or interception-worthy throws and no injury reports, so those kinds of luck aren’t counted here.
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2025 games ·
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