Week 9 2025 · October 25, 2025
SMU at Wake Forest, Week 9 2025: who deserved to win?
Wake Forest beat SMU 13–12, and the replays lean its way: with the same day's form, it wins 7 of 10.
An off day for SMU: its offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against Wake Forest it would win 63% of the time; with this day’s form, 30%. The numbers
Before kickoff SMU was a 64% favorite. The biggest swing (Q4, 1:55 left): Wake Forest fumbled and SMU recovered, worth 21 points of win probability to SMU.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +30 Wake Forest lucky · −30 SMU
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. SMU wins 3, Wake Forest wins 7.
- 1 SMU 21 WAKE 3
- 2 SMU 21 WAKE 13
- 3 SMU 10 WAKE 7
- 4 SMU 14 WAKE 16
- 5 SMU 9 WAKE 14
- 6 SMU 21 WAKE 29
- 7 SMU 20 WAKE 31
- 8 SMU 13 WAKE 28
- 9 SMU 23 WAKE 44
- 10 SMU 9 WAKE 38
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for SMU
Its offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against Wake Forest it would win 63% of the time; with this day’s form, 30%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
33 points apart for SMU: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| SMU offenseEPA per play gained | −0.36 | +0.14 | worse by 0.50 |
| SMU defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.20 | +0.01 | better by 0.20 |
| Wake Forest offenseEPA per play gained | −0.20 | +0.07 | worse by 0.26 |
| Wake Forest defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.36 | +0.04 | better by 0.40 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
SMU wins 30% of them, Wake Forest 70%, counting the 4% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Wake Forest by 1.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| SMU by 17+ | 5.5% |
| SMU by 9–16 | 8.5% |
| SMU by 1–8 | 14.7% |
| Level after regulation | 3.8% |
| Wake Forest by 1–8 | 22.0% |
| Wake Forest by 9–16 | 20.8% |
| Wake Forest by 17+ | 24.8% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance), and what happened.
- C. Calvert, 25 yds made · 90% expected
- S. Keltner, 36 yds made · 79% expected
- S. Keltner, 35 yds made · 81% expected
- C. Calvert, 54 yds missed · 46% expected
- S. Keltner, 43 yds missed · 67% expected
- C. Calvert, 50 yds made · 53% expected
- Extra point missed · 98% expected
Penalties: SMU 5 for 50 yards, Wake Forest 6 for 51 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 14:33 | Pass Interference on Wake Forest, 11 yards | +3% SMU +1.9 pts |
| Q1 0:05 | Illegal Substitution on Wake Forest, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% SMU +0.8 pts |
| Q2 3:13 | Holding on Wake Forest, 10 yards | +2% SMU +0.8 pts |
| Q2 1:46 | False Start on SMU, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% WAKE +0.2 pts |
| Q2 0:53 | Personal Foul on SMU, 12 yards | +2% WAKE +0.7 pts |
| Q3 13:44 | Face Mask on SMU, 15 yards | +3% WAKE +0.9 pts |
| Q3 3:04 | Pass Interference on Wake Forest, 15 yards | +8% SMU +2.2 pts |
| Q3 0:22 | Illegal Formation on Wake Forest, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% SMU +0.5 pts |
| Q4 14:10 | Unnecessary Roughness on SMU, 10 yards | +2% WAKE +0.4 pts |
| Q4 10:09 | False Start on Wake Forest, 5 yards · pre-snap | +6% SMU +1.2 pts |
| Q4 7:31 | Face Mask on SMU, 8 yards | +2% WAKE +0.5 pts |
When it happened
Wake Forest’s chance of winning
As low as 25% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 5:56 | SMU converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +7% SMU | SMU: Field goal |
| 2 | Q3 5:52 | Wake Forest was stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 71% expected | +13% SMU | WAKE: Turnover |
| 3 | Q3 3:04 | Pass Interference on Wake Forest, 15 yardsJudgment calls | +8% SMU | SMU: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q3 2:05 | Wake Forest converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 24% expected | +11% WAKE | WAKE: Turnover |
| 5 | Q3 0:52 | Wake Forest converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +10% WAKE | WAKE: Turnover |
| 6 | Q4 4:26 | Wake Forest converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +11% WAKE | WAKE: Turnover |
| 7 | Q4 1:56 | Wake Forest converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +19% WAKE | WAKE: Turnover |
| 8 | Q4 1:55 | Wake Forest fumbled and SMU recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +21% SMU | WAKE: Field goal |
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
SMU 79% · Wake Forest 21%
- Final margin
- Wake Forest by 1
- Luck in points
- 7.4 for Wake Forest
- Luck-adjusted margin
- SMU by 6.4
- Replay with same day's form
- SMU 30% · Wake Forest 70% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and expected points from CollegeFootballData.com via cfbfastR; win probability from our own model of the score, the possession and the betting line; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record. College play-by-play has no charting of drops or interception-worthy throws and no injury reports, so those kinds of luck aren’t counted here.
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