Week 8 2025 · October 18, 2025
USC at Notre Dame, Week 8 2025: who deserved to win?
Notre Dame beat USC 34–24, and the replays lean its way: with the same day's form, it wins 7 of 10. USC had the bounces: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 11 points of win probability to USC.
Before kickoff Notre Dame was a 75% favorite. The biggest swing (Q4, 11:50 left): USC converted 3rd & 9, worth 11 points of win probability to USC.
Final
| 24 | |
| 34 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +27 Notre Dame lucky · −27 USC
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. USC wins 3, Notre Dame wins 7.
- 1 USC 55 ND 34
- 2 USC 52 ND 41
- 3 USC 45 ND 41
- 4 USC 10 ND 13
- 5 USC 27 ND 34
- 6 USC 24 ND 34
- 7 USC 13 ND 27
- 8 USC 23 ND 41
- 9 USC 28 ND 50
- 10 USC 13 ND 47
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
USC wins 27% of them, Notre Dame 73%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Notre Dame by 10.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| USC by 17+ | 5.4% |
| USC by 9–16 | 7.4% |
| USC by 1–8 | 12.0% |
| Level after regulation | 2.7% |
| Notre Dame by 1–8 | 21.9% |
| Notre Dame by 9–16 | 18.6% |
| Notre Dame by 17+ | 32.0% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance), and what happened.
- R. Sayeri, 42 yds made · 70% expected
- R. Sayeri, 24 yds made · 93% expected
- R. Sayeri, 43 yds made · 68% expected
- N. Burnette, 31 yds missed · 87% expected
- Extra point missed · 98% expected
Penalties: USC 1 for 5 yards, Notre Dame 8 for 96 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 14:22 | Offside on Notre Dame, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% USC +1.0 pts |
| Q1 11:25 | False Start on USC, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% ND +0.8 pts |
| Q2 14:05 | Holding on Notre Dame, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +6% USC +3.4 pts |
| Q2 5:15 | Pass Interference on Notre Dame, 15 yards | +2% USC +1.0 pts |
| Q2 2:31 | Pass Interference on Notre Dame, 15 yards | +4% USC +1.9 pts |
| Q2 1:07 | Personal Foul on Notre Dame, 15 yards | +1% USC +0.5 pts |
| Q3 7:58 | Pass Interference on Notre Dame, 15 yards | +2% USC +1.2 pts |
| Q3 7:19 | Pass Interference on Notre Dame, 15 yards | +4% USC +1.6 pts |
| Q3 5:12 | Pass Interference on Notre Dame, 6 yards | +4% USC +1.5 pts |
When it happened
Notre Dame’s chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:31 | USC converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +5% USC | USC: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 14:05 | Holding on Notre Dame, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% USC | USC: Turnover on downs |
| 3 | Q2 2:31 | Pass Interference on Notre Dame, 15 yardsJudgment calls | +4% USC | USC: Field goal |
| 4 | Q3 9:24 | Notre Dame converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +4% ND | ND: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 4:32 | USC’s two-point try was good3rd & 4th downs · 46% expected | +4% USC | USC: Turnover |
| 6 | Q3 2:24 | USC converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +8% USC | USC: Turnover |
| 7 | Q4 12:48 | Notre Dame was stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 50% expected | +4% USC | ND: Missed field goal |
| 8 | Q4 11:50 | USC converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +11% USC | USC: End of game |
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
USC 0% · Notre Dame 100%
- Final margin
- Notre Dame by 10
- Luck in points
- 10.1 for USC
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Notre Dame by 20.1
- Replay with same day's form
- USC 27% · Notre Dame 73% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and expected points from CollegeFootballData.com via cfbfastR; win probability from our own model of the score, the possession and the betting line; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record. College play-by-play has no charting of drops or interception-worthy throws and no injury reports, so those kinds of luck aren’t counted here.
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