Week 6 2025 · October 4, 2025
Oregon State at App State, Week 6 2025: who deserved to win?
App State beat Oregon State 27–23, but the replays lean toward Oregon State: it takes 8 of 10 with the same day's form. Luck ran its way: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 17 points of win probability to App State.
Before kickoff App State was a 54% favorite. The biggest swing (Q4, 1:49 left): Oregon State was stopped on 4th & 1, worth 17 points of win probability to App State.
Final
| 23 | |
| 27 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +80 App State very lucky · −80 Oregon State
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Oregon State wins 8, App State wins 2.
- 1 ORST 62 APP 28
- 2 ORST 48 APP 22
- 3 ORST 34 APP 13
- 4 ORST 35 APP 17
- 5 ORST 24 APP 10
- 6 ORST 26 APP 16
- 7 ORST 34 APP 28
- 8 ORST 37 APP 34
- 9 ORST 14 APP 18
- 10 ORST 28 APP 41
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Oregon State wins 80% of them, App State 20%, counting the 4% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: App State by 4.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Oregon State by 17+ | 37.1% |
| Oregon State by 9–16 | 19.8% |
| Oregon State by 1–8 | 18.7% |
| Level after regulation | 4.5% |
| App State by 1–8 | 11.7% |
| App State by 9–16 | 5.4% |
| App State by 17+ | 2.9% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance), and what happened.
- D. De Freitas, 49 yds made · 56% expected
- C. Ojeda, 28 yds missed · 88% expected
- D. De Freitas, 41 yds missed · 71% expected
- D. De Freitas, 45 yds made · 63% expected
Penalties: Oregon State 4 for 27 yards, App State 6 for 49 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count toward luck, pre-snap fouls mostly don’t. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 4:59 | Pass Interference on Oregon State, 2 yards | 0% APP +0.2 pts |
| Q2 13:56 | Holding on Oregon State, 10 yards | 0% ORST +0.9 pts |
| Q2 9:23 | Delay of Game on App State, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% ORST +0.6 pts |
| Q2 8:19 | False Start on App State, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% ORST +0.5 pts |
| Q2 5:06 | Horse Collar Tackle on App State, 5 yards | +2% ORST +1.0 pts |
| Q3 10:17 | Holding on Oregon State, 10 yards | +7% APP +2.5 pts |
| Q4 12:06 | Targeting on App State, 15 yards | +3% ORST +0.8 pts |
| Q4 11:19 | Pass Interference on App State, 15 yards | +5% ORST +1.2 pts |
| Q4 1:23 | False Start on Oregon State, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% APP +0.4 pts |
| Q4 0:30 | Pass Interference on App State, 4 yards | +9% ORST +1.2 pts |
When it happened
App State’s chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 0:30 | D. De Freitas missed a 41-yard field goalKicks · 71% expected for him | +7% ORST | APP: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q3 11:32 | App State converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +8% APP | APP: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q3 10:17 | Holding on Oregon State, 10 yardsJudgment calls | +7% APP | APP: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q3 2:39 | App State converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +7% APP | APP: Field goal |
| 5 | Q4 7:39 | Oregon State converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +10% ORST | ORST: Turnover on downs |
| 6 | Q4 1:49 | Oregon State was stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 75% expected | +17% APP | ORST: Turnover |
| 7 | Q4 1:15 | Oregon State converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +8% ORST | ORST: Turnover |
| 8 | Q4 0:30 | Oregon State was stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 80% expectedPass Interference on App State, 4 yardsJudgment calls | +9% ORST | ORST: Turnover |
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Oregon State 90% · App State 10%
- Final margin
- App State by 4
- Luck in points
- 11.6 for App State
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Oregon State by 7.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Oregon State 80% · App State 20% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and expected points from CollegeFootballData.com via cfbfastR; win probability from our own model of the score, the possession and the betting line; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record. College play-by-play has no charting of drops or interception-worthy throws and no injury reports, so those kinds of luck aren’t counted here.
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