Week 15 2020 · December 19, 2020
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Panthers at Packers, Week 15 2020: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Panthers 24–16, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Packers win 8 of 10.
Before kickoff the Packers were 76% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 12:55 left): the Packers converted 3rd & 1, worth 8 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
| 16 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +19 Packers about even · −19 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 2, Packers win 8.
- 1 CAR 36 GB 24
- 2 CAR 26 GB 23
- 3 CAR 21 GB 23
- 4 CAR 30 GB 34
- 5 CAR 13 GB 21
- 6 CAR 13 GB 24
- 7 CAR 17 GB 31
- 8 CAR 12 GB 31
- 9 CAR 10 GB 34
- 10 CAR 12 GB 44
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 19% of them, Packers 81%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 8.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 2.1% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 5.3% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 10.9% |
| Level after regulation | 2.1% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 27.5% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 21.6% |
| Packers by 17+ | 30.4% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Packers by 8. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Packers by 6.4.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Slye, 36 yds made · 90% expected
- J. Slye, 22 yds made · 98% expected
- M. Crosby, 51 yds made · 69% expected
- J. Slye, 33 yds made · 93% expected
When it happened
Packers’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:55 | The Packers converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 77% expected | +8% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 3:09 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Panthers (Troy Pride Jr.), 16 yardsJudgment calls · 4 flags in 651 snaps before, position avg 1 per 207 | +6% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 14:15 | The Packers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 33% expected | +5% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 11:43 | The Panthers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50Lowering the Head to Initiate Contact on the Packers (Kevin King), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 5 flags in 1413 snaps before, position avg 1 per 207 | +7% CAR | CAR: Turnover |
| 5 | Q2 8:06 | The Panthers converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 72% expected | +7% CAR | CAR: Turnover |
| 6 | Q2 7:39 | The Panthers fumbled and the Packers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +7% GB | CAR: Punt |
| 7 | Q4 9:36 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% CAR | GB: Field goal |
| 8 | Q4 0:24 | Defensive Offside on the Packers (Za'Darius Smith), 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags · 12 flags in 1778 snaps before, position avg 1 per 395 | +8% CAR | CAR: Turnover on downs |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Corey Linsley (GB C), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Josh Jackson (GB CB), out · 0.4 pts
- Raven Greene (GB S), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Russell Okung (CAR T), out · 0.8 pts
- Stephen Weatherly (CAR DE), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 15% · Packers 85%
- Final margin
- Packers by 8
- Luck in points
- 1.6 for the Packers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 6.4
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 19% · Packers 81% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
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