Week 9 2021 · November 7, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Packers at Chiefs, Week 9 2021: who deserved to win?
The Chiefs beat the Packers 13–7 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 7 of 10.
Before kickoff the Chiefs were 70% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 3:44 left): Defensive Offside on the Packers (Oren Burks), 5 yards, wiping out the play, worth 13 points of win probability to the Chiefs.
Final
| 7 | |
| 13 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +32 Chiefs lucky · −32 Packers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Packers win 3, Chiefs win 7.
- 1 GB 37 KC 20
- 2 GB 28 KC 20
- 3 GB 24 KC 21
- 4 GB 22 KC 24
- 5 GB 20 KC 24
- 6 GB 27 KC 34
- 7 GB 6 KC 16
- 8 GB 10 KC 24
- 9 GB 17 KC 35
- 10 GB 7 KC 34
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Packers win 32% of them, Chiefs 68%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chiefs by 6.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Packers by 17+ | 4.8% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 8.9% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 18.2% |
| Level after regulation | 2.3% |
| Chiefs by 1–8 | 27.1% |
| Chiefs by 9–16 | 20.1% |
| Chiefs by 17+ | 18.6% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Chiefs by 6. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Packers by 13.9.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- M. Crosby, 40 yds missed · 86% expected
- M. Crosby, 37 yds blocked · 90% expected
- H. Butker, 24 yds made · 99% expected
- H. Butker, 55 yds made · 63% expected
When it happened
Chiefs’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 14:08 | The Packers were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +5% KC | GB: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 12:37 | The Chiefs converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 76% expected | +5% KC | KC: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 0:52 | M. Crosby missed 40-yard field goalKicks · 86% expected for him | +6% KC | GB: Missed field goal |
| 4 | Q2 15:00 | The Chiefs were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 76% expected | +8% GB | KC: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 3:44 | Defensive Offside on the Packers (Oren Burks), 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags · 0 flags in 1099 snaps before, position avg 1 per 409 | +13% KC | KC: Punt |
| 6 | Q2 2:50 | The Packers fumbled and the Chiefs recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% KC | GB: Turnover on downs |
| 7 | Q2 0:30 | The Packers were stopped on 4th & 53rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +5% KC | GB: End of half |
| 8 | Q4 5:00 | The Packers converted 4th & 53rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +8% GB | GB: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Mike Remmers (KC T), out · 0.3 pts
- Clyde Edwards-Helaire (KC RB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Aaron Rodgers (GB QB), out (IR), replaced by j.love · 9.0 pts
- Jaire Alexander (GB CB), out (IR) · 0.9 pts
- Josh Myers (GB C), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Robert Tonyan (GB TE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Kingsley Keke (GB DE), out · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Packers 76% · Chiefs 24%
- Final margin
- Chiefs by 6
- Luck in points
- 19.9 for the Chiefs
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 13.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Packers 32% · Chiefs 68% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2021 games ·
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- Broncos at Cowboys DEN 30–16 · replay 52% for the winner
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- Chargers at Eagles LAC 27–24 · replay 79% for the winner
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