Week 9 2021 · November 7, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Patriots at Panthers, Week 9 2021: who deserved to win?
The Patriots beat the Panthers 24–6, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Patriots win 8 of 10. The Panthers had the bounces: kicks alone were worth 4.2 points to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Patriots were 60% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 7:12 left): Return touchdown by the Patriots, worth 23 points of win probability to the Patriots.
Final
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| 6 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +18 Patriots about even · −18 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Patriots win 8, Panthers win 2.
- 1 NE 33 CAR 6
- 2 NE 20 CAR 0
- 3 NE 20 CAR 3
- 4 NE 17 CAR 3
- 5 NE 16 CAR 6
- 6 NE 17 CAR 10
- 7 NE 21 CAR 17
- 8 NE 12 CAR 10
- 9 NE 13 CAR 17
- 10 NE 14 CAR 27
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Patriots win 82% of them, Panthers 18%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Patriots by 18.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Patriots by 17+ | 35.1% |
| Patriots by 9–16 | 22.4% |
| Patriots by 1–8 | 24.4% |
| Level after regulation | 1.3% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 11.5% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 4.2% |
| Panthers by 17+ | 1.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Patriots by 18. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Patriots by 15.7.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- Z. Gonzalez, 39 yds made · 85% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 49 yds made · 66% expected
- N. Folk, 37 yds made · 89% expected
- N. Folk, 54 yds missed · 60% expected
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 71%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 7:43 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 33% expected | +6% NE | NE: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 2:12 | The Patriots fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +7% NE | NE: Turnover |
| 3 | Q1 0:39 | The Patriots were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 45% expectedThe Patriots fumbled and the Panthers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +21% CAR | NE: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 8:56 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 59% expected | +7% NE | NE: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 3:14 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +9% NE | NE: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 1:22 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 51% expected | +5% NE | NE: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q2 0:29 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +11% NE | NE: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 7:12 | Return touchdown by the PatriotsSpecial teams | +23% NE | NE: Opp touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Jaycee Horn (CAR CB), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- John Miller (CAR G), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Juston Burris (CAR SS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Pat Elflein (CAR G), out · 0.2 pts
- Joseph Charlton (CAR P), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Jonathan Jones (NE CB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Patriots 100% · Panthers 0%
- Final margin
- Patriots by 18
- Luck in points
- 2.3 for the Patriots
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Patriots by 15.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Patriots 82% · Panthers 18% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
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