Week 8 2021 · October 31, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Eagles at Lions, Week 8 2021: who deserved to win?
The Eagles beat the Lions 44–6, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Eagles win 10 of 10. The Lions had the bounces: fumble bounces alone were worth 1.6 points to the Lions.
Before kickoff the Eagles were 59% favorites.
Final
| 44 | |
| 6 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +2 Eagles about even · −2 Lions
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Eagles win 10, Lions win 0.
- 1 PHI 35 DET 0
- 2 PHI 30 DET 3
- 3 PHI 27 DET 3
- 4 PHI 23 DET 3
- 5 PHI 22 DET 3
- 6 PHI 19 DET 3
- 7 PHI 16 DET 2
- 8 PHI 24 DET 13
- 9 PHI 24 DET 17
- 10 PHI 17 DET 14
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Eagles win 98% of them, Lions 2%. The line is what actually happened: Eagles by 38.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Eagles by 17+ | 76.2% |
| Eagles by 9–16 | 15.8% |
| Eagles by 1–8 | 5.9% |
| Level after regulation | 0.4% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 1.6% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 0.1% |
| Lions by 17+ | 0.0% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Eagles by 38. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Eagles by 28.9.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- A. Seibert, 47 yds missed · 76% expected
- J. Elliott, 43 yds made · 85% expected
- J. Elliott, 26 yds made · 98% expected
- J. Elliott, 41 yds made · 87% expected
When it happened
Lions’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 63%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:06 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +5% PHI | DET: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 12:13 | The Eagles were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 42% expected | +4% DET | PHI: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 8:41 | A. Seibert missed 47-yard field goalKicks · 76% expected for him, 9 of 16 from 45+ before | +8% PHI | DET: Punt |
| 4 | Q1 4:46 | Defensive Holding on the Lions (Amani Oruwariye), 2 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 8 flags in 1872 snaps before, position avg 1 per 213 | +5% PHI | PHI: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q1 3:14 | The Eagles converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 68% expected | +4% PHI | PHI: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q1 1:51 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +4% PHI | DET: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 8:33 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +4% PHI | DET: Punt |
| 8 | Q2 1:12 | Illegal Formation on the Lions, 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags | +7% PHI | PHI: End of half |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Frank Ragnow (DET C), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Romeo Okwara (DET LB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Quintez Cephus (DET WR), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Anthony Harris (PHI FS), out · 0.4 pts
- Brandon Brooks (PHI G), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Isaac Seumalo (PHI G), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Miles Sanders (PHI RB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Eric Wilson (PHI LB), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Eagles 100% · Lions 0%
- Final margin
- Eagles by 38
- Luck in points
- 9.1 for the Eagles
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Eagles by 28.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Eagles 98% · Lions 2% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2021 games ·
Eagles ·
Lions
More from Week 8 2021
- Packers at Cardinals GB 24–21 · replay 35% for the winner
- Panthers at Falcons CAR 19–13 · replay 32% for the winner
- Bengals at Jets NYJ 34–31 · replay 62% for the winner
- Rams at Texans LA 38–22 · replay 98% for the winner
- Dolphins at Bills BUF 26–11 · replay 92% for the winner
- Steelers at Browns PIT 15–10 · replay 54% for the winner
- 49ers at Bears SF 33–22 · replay 96% for the winner
- Titans at Colts TEN 34–31 · replay 38% for the winner
- Jaguars at Seahawks SEA 31–7 · replay 57% for the winner
- Patriots at Chargers NE 27–24 · replay 24% for the winner
- Buccaneers at Saints NO 36–27 · replay 22% for the winner
- Washington at Broncos DEN 17–10 · replay 48% for the winner
- Cowboys at Vikings DAL 20–16 · replay 93% for the winner
- Giants at Chiefs KC 20–17 · replay 81% for the winner