Week 8 2021 · October 31, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Panthers at Falcons, Week 8 2021: who deserved to win?
The Panthers beat the Falcons 19–13, but the Falcons played well enough to win it: they take 7 of 10 replays with the same day's form. Luck ran their way: kicks alone were worth 5.3 points to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Falcons were 57% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 14:15 left): Y. Koo missed 45-yard field goal, worth 18 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +68 Panthers very lucky · −68 Falcons
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 3, Falcons win 7.
- 1 CAR 30 ATL 14
- 2 CAR 10 ATL 3
- 3 CAR 22 ATL 19
- 4 CAR 17 ATL 19
- 5 CAR 21 ATL 24
- 6 CAR 20 ATL 27
- 7 CAR 10 ATL 20
- 8 CAR 10 ATL 23
- 9 CAR 17 ATL 34
- 10 CAR 9 ATL 34
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 32% of them, Falcons 68%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Panthers by 6.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 3.8% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 8.8% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 18.8% |
| Level after regulation | 2.4% |
| Falcons by 1–8 | 26.7% |
| Falcons by 9–16 | 20.8% |
| Falcons by 17+ | 18.7% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Panthers by 6. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Panthers by 8.8.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- Y. Koo, 46 yds made · 82% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 29 yds made · 96% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 51 yds made · 66% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 57 yds made · 56% expected
- Z. Gonzalez, 23 yds made · 98% expected
- Y. Koo, 45 yds missed · 84% expected
- Y. Koo, 53 yds made · 69% expected
When it happened
Falcons’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 82%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 10:30 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers (Ian Thomas), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 4 flags in 1346 snaps before, position avg 1 per 269 | +9% ATL | ATL: Turnover |
| 2 | Q3 6:56 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +9% CAR | CAR: Field goal |
| 3 | Q3 2:20 | Roughing the Passer on the Panthers (Brian Burns), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 9 flags in 1820 snaps before, position avg 1 per 266 | +7% ATL | ATL: Missed field goal |
| 4 | Q3 1:18 | The Falcons fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +8% ATL | ATL: Missed field goal |
| 5 | Q3 0:36 | The Falcons converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +8% ATL | ATL: Missed field goal |
| 6 | Q4 14:21 | The Falcons were stopped on 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 60% expected | +7% CAR | ATL: Missed field goal |
| 7 | Q4 14:15 | Y. Koo missed 45-yard field goalKicks · 84% expected for him, 19 of 20 from 45+ before | +18% CAR | ATL: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 8:29 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +10% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Calvin Ridley (ATL WR), out · 0.8 pts
- Isaiah Oliver (ATL CB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Matt Gono (ATL T), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Dante Fowler (ATL DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- John Cominsky (ATL DE), out · 0.2 pts
- Dante Fowler (ATL LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Cameron Nizialek (ATL P), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Jaycee Horn (CAR CB), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Christian McCaffrey (CAR RB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- John Miller (CAR G), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Juston Burris (CAR SS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Pat Elflein (CAR G), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Joseph Charlton (CAR P), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 89% · Falcons 11%
- Final margin
- Panthers by 6
- Luck in points
- 2.8 for the Falcons
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Panthers by 8.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 32% · Falcons 68% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
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