Week 9 2022 · November 7, 2022
Ravens at Saints, Week 9 2022: who deserved to win?
The Ravens beat the Saints 27–13, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Ravens win 4 of 10. Luck ran their way: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 2.0 points to the Ravens.
Before kickoff it was a pick’em. The biggest swing (Q1, 10:36 left): Defensive Pass Interference on the Ravens (Chuck Clark), 6 yards, wiping out the play, worth 12 points of win probability to the Saints.
Final
| 27 | |
| 13 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +59 Ravens lucky · −59 Saints
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Ravens win 4, Saints win 6.
- 1 BAL 31 NO 14
- 2 BAL 34 NO 24
- 3 BAL 24 NO 19
- 4 BAL 16 NO 14
- 5 BAL 24 NO 26
- 6 BAL 15 NO 19
- 7 BAL 13 NO 20
- 8 BAL 17 NO 27
- 9 BAL 20 NO 34
- 10 BAL 7 NO 31
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Ravens win 41% of them, Saints 59%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Ravens by 14.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Ravens by 17+ | 6.4% |
| Ravens by 9–16 | 12.6% |
| Ravens by 1–8 | 19.9% |
| Level after regulation | 2.9% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 27.9% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 16.4% |
| Saints by 17+ | 14.0% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Ravens by 14. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Ravens by 13.6.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- W. Lutz, 33 yds made · 94% expected
- J. Tucker, 32 yds made · 98% expected
- W. Lutz, 37 yds made · 91% expected
- J. Tucker, 41 yds made · 90% expected
When it happened
Saints’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 58%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 10:36 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Ravens (Chuck Clark), 6 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 12 flags in 3970 snaps before, position avg 1 per 473 | +12% NO | NO: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 9:11 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +6% BAL | NO: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 4:26 | The Ravens converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 31% expected | +10% BAL | BAL: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 9:55 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 50% expected | +5% BAL | NO: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 9:00 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Ravens, 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +8% NO | NO: Field goal |
| 6 | Q2 7:51 | The Ravens converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +8% BAL | BAL: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 2:08 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +9% BAL | NO: Field goal |
| 8 | Q4 14:04 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 33% expected | +6% BAL | NO: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Marshon Lattimore (NO CB), out · 1.0 pts
- Michael Thomas (NO WR), out (IR) · 1.0 pts
- Jarvis Landry (NO WR), out · 0.8 pts
- Bradley Roby (NO CB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Mark Andrews (BAL TE), out · 1.1 pts
- Marcus Williams (BAL FS), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Rashod Bateman (BAL WR), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Josh Bynes (BAL LB), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Ravens 99% · Saints 1%
- Final margin
- Ravens by 14
- Luck in points
- 0.4 for the Ravens
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Ravens by 13.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Ravens 41% · Saints 59% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2022 games ·
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