Week 4 2023 · October 1, 2023
Raiders at Chargers, Week 4 2023: who deserved to win?
The Chargers beat the Raiders 24–17, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Chargers win 9 of 10.
Before kickoff the Chargers were 70% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 2:47 left): the Raiders converted 4th & 10, worth 15 points of win probability to the Raiders.
Final
| 17 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +11 Chargers about even · −11 Raiders
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Raiders win 1, Chargers win 9.
- 1 LV 28 LAC 20
- 2 LV 22 LAC 24
- 3 LV 12 LAC 17
- 4 LV 7 LAC 15
- 5 LV 6 LAC 16
- 6 LV 10 LAC 23
- 7 LV 10 LAC 26
- 8 LV 15 LAC 34
- 9 LV 7 LAC 29
- 10 LV 3 LAC 35
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Raiders win 11% of them, Chargers 89%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chargers by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Raiders by 17+ | 1.0% |
| Raiders by 9–16 | 2.4% |
| Raiders by 1–8 | 6.4% |
| Level after regulation | 1.8% |
| Chargers by 1–8 | 17.5% |
| Chargers by 9–16 | 22.8% |
| Chargers by 17+ | 48.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Chargers by 7. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Raiders by 3.8.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- C. Dicker, 33 yds made · 95% expected
- D. Carlson, 22 yds made · 100% expected
When it happened
Chargers’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:13 | Defensive Offside on the Raiders (David Long), 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags · 5 flags in 1719 snaps before, position avg 1 per 216 | +9% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 10:44 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 31% expected | +6% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 13:19 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 45% expected | +11% LAC | LAC: Field goal |
| 4 | Q2 9:48 | The Raiders were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 35% expectedThe Raiders fumbled and the Chargers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +15% LAC | LV: Turnover |
| 5 | Q2 0:51 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Raiders (Jakobi Meyers), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 10 flags in 2881 snaps before, position avg 1 per 420 | +10% LAC | LAC: End of half |
| 6 | Q4 3:34 | The Chargers were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +12% LV | LAC: End of game |
| 7 | Q4 2:47 | The Raiders converted 4th & 103rd & 4th downs · 25% expected | +15% LV | LV: Turnover |
| 8 | Q4 2:39 | The Raiders threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 47% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +7% LAC | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Mike Williams (LAC WR), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Corey Linsley (LAC C), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Derwin James (LAC SS), out · 0.7 pts
- Derwin James (LAC FS), out · 0.5 pts
- Alohi Gilman (LAC SS), out · 0.4 pts
- Austin Ekeler (LAC RB), out · 0.2 pts
- Jimmy Garoppolo (LV QB), out, replaced by a.o'connell · 7.7 pts
- Nate Hobbs (LV CB), out · 0.6 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Raiders 44% · Chargers 56%
- Final margin
- Chargers by 7
- Luck in points
- 10.8 for the Chargers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Raiders by 3.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Raiders 11% · Chargers 89% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 4 2023 games ·
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