Week 4 2025 · September 28, 2025
Browns at Lions, Week 4 2025: who deserved to win?
The Lions beat the Browns 34–10, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Lions win 10 of 10.
Before kickoff the Lions were 77% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 4:36 left): the Browns were intercepted on a well-placed throw, worth 9 points of win probability to the Lions.
Final
| 10 | |
| 34 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +4 Lions about even · −4 Browns
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Browns win 0, Lions win 10.
- 1 CLE 6 DET 9
- 2 CLE 20 DET 26
- 3 CLE 13 DET 23
- 4 CLE 13 DET 25
- 5 CLE 15 DET 30
- 6 CLE 9 DET 26
- 7 CLE 17 DET 38
- 8 CLE 17 DET 41
- 9 CLE 3 DET 33
- 10 CLE 0 DET 38
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Browns win 4% of them, Lions 96%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Lions by 24.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Browns by 17+ | 0.1% |
| Browns by 9–16 | 0.5% |
| Browns by 1–8 | 3.0% |
| Level after regulation | 0.7% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 7.6% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 17.6% |
| Lions by 17+ | 70.6% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Lions by 24. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Lions by 14.2.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Bates, 48 yds made · 78% expected
- J. Bates, 58 yds made · 62% expected
- A. Szmyt, 33 yds made · 95% expected
- A. Szmyt, 56 yds missed · 66% expected
When it happened
Lions’ chance of winning
As low as 32% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 10:18 | The Browns converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +7% CLE | CLE: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 5:41 | The Browns converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 61% expected | +8% CLE | CLE: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 14:20 | J. Bates made 48-yard field goalKicks · 78% expected for him, 10 of 15 from 45+ before | +6% DET | DET: Punt |
| 4 | Q2 6:17 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 26% expectedJ. Williams dropped a catchable passDrops · 9 drops on 116 catchable balls before this | +6% CLE | DET: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 6:10 | The Browns fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +8% CLE | CLE: Turnover |
| 6 | Q2 4:36 | The Browns were intercepted on a well-placed throwInterceptions · 0% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +9% DET | CLE: Punt |
| 7 | Q3 1:34 | The Browns were stopped on 3rd & 163rd & 4th downs · 16% expectedI. Bond dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 7 catchable balls before this | +9% DET | CLE: Missed field goal |
| 8 | Q4 14:03 | The Browns were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 29% expectedJ. Jeudy dropped a catchable passDrops · 16 drops on 256 catchable balls before this | +7% DET | CLE: Opp touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Levi Onwuzurike (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Marcus Davenport (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Jack Conklin (CLE T), out · 1.0 pts
- Martin Emerson (CLE CB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Dawand Jones (CLE T), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Cameron Mitchell (CLE CB), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Browns 1% · Lions 99%
- Final margin
- Lions by 24
- Luck in points
- 9.8 for the Lions
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Lions by 14.2
- Replay with same day's form
- Browns 4% · Lions 96% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 4 2025 games ·
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