Week 2 2021 · September 20, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Lions at Packers, Week 2 2021: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Lions 35–17, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Packers win 9 of 10.
Before kickoff the Packers were 80% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 12:20 left): the Packers converted 3rd & 12, worth 19 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
| 17 | |
| 35 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +10 Packers about even · −10 Lions
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Lions win 1, Packers win 9.
- 1 DET 28 GB 21
- 2 DET 21 GB 23
- 3 DET 13 GB 19
- 4 DET 19 GB 27
- 5 DET 35 GB 45
- 6 DET 24 GB 37
- 7 DET 19 GB 34
- 8 DET 12 GB 31
- 9 DET 3 GB 28
- 10 DET 0 GB 34
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Lions win 10% of them, Packers 90%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 18.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Lions by 17+ | 0.6% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 2.5% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 5.9% |
| Level after regulation | 1.9% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 17.2% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 21.8% |
| Packers by 17+ | 50.1% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Packers by 18. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Packers by 12.7.
When it happened
Packers’ chance of winning
As low as 37% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:43 | The Lions converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +13% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 14:16 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 30% expectedIntentional Grounding on the Lions (Jared Goff), 14 yardsJudgment calls · 5 flags in 2341 snaps before, position avg 1 per 711 | +11% GB | DET: Punt |
| 3 | Q3 12:20 | The Packers converted 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +19% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q3 10:30 | The Packers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +12% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 8:15 | The Lions converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +8% DET | DET: Turnover on downs |
| 6 | Q3 5:57 | The Lions were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +14% GB | DET: Turnover |
| 7 | Q3 5:26 | The Packers converted 3rd & 143rd & 4th downs · 25% expected | +7% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 3:58 | The Packers converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +7% GB | GB: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- David Bakhtiari (GB T), out (IR) · 1.4 pts
- Za'Darius Smith (GB LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Lucas Patrick (GB G), out · 0.3 pts
- Taylor Decker (DET T), out (IR) · 1.1 pts
- Tyrell Crosby (DET OL), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Jeff Okudah (DET CB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Kevin Strong (DET DT), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Lions 2% · Packers 98%
- Final margin
- Packers by 18
- Luck in points
- 5.3 for the Packers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 12.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Lions 10% · Packers 90% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 2 2021 games ·
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