Week 2 2021 · September 20, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Lions at Packers, Week 2 2021: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Lions 35–17, and the replays back it up: with the way both teams actually played, the Packers win 9 of 10.
Before kickoff the Packers were 80% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 5:57 left): the Lions were stopped on 4th & 1, worth 14 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
| 17 | |
| 35 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +8 Packers about even · −8 Lions
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Lions win 1, Packers win 9.
- 1 DET 23 GB 17
- 2 DET 24 GB 27
- 3 DET 9 GB 14
- 4 DET 27 GB 34
- 5 DET 24 GB 35
- 6 DET 17 GB 31
- 7 DET 27 GB 44
- 8 DET 6 GB 28
- 9 DET 13 GB 38
- 10 DET 6 GB 38
Your call
Did the Packers earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Lions win 8% of them, Packers 92%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 18.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Lions by 17+ | 0.5% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 2.0% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 5.3% |
| Level after regulation | 1.6% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 16.9% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 22.1% |
| Packers by 17+ | 51.7% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
Penalties: Lions 9 for 78 yards, Packers 5 for 50 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 8:10 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Lions (Amani Oruwariye), 5 yards | +3% GB +0.9 pts |
| Q1 7:02 | False Start on the Packers (AJ Dillon), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% DET +0.8 pts |
| Q1 0:56 | False Start on the Lions (T.J. Hockenson), 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% GB +0.5 pts |
| Q1 0:35 | Offensive Holding on the Lions, 10 yards | +3% GB +1.1 pts |
| Q2 14:16 | Intentional Grounding on the Lions (Jared Goff), 14 yards | +4% GB +1.0 pts |
| Q2 14:12 | False Start on the Lions, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% DET +0.1 pts |
| Q2 10:32 | Face Mask on the Packers (De'Vondre Campbell), 15 yards | +6% DET +1.8 pts |
| Q3 15:00 | Offensive Holding on the Packers (AJ Dillon), 10 yards | +1% DET +0.9 pts |
| Q3 4:57 | Offensive Holding on the Packers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +6% DET +1.6 pts |
| Q3 4:27 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Lions, 25 yards | +5% GB +1.8 pts |
| Q3 1:46 | Offensive Holding on the Packers, 10 yards | +3% DET +1.3 pts |
| Q3 1:24 | Defensive Holding on the Lions (Alex Anzalone), 5 yards | +2% GB +0.8 pts |
| Q4 12:48 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Lions (Amani Oruwariye), 4 yards | +2% GB +2.1 pts |
| Q4 10:29 | Delay of Game on the Lions, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% GB +0.6 pts |
Lions penalties, every game · Packers penalties, every game · All teams, 2021
When it happened
Packers’ chance of winning
As low as 37% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 14:16 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 32% expectedIntentional Grounding on the Lions (Jared Goff), 14 yardsJudgment calls · 5 flags in 2341 snaps before, position avg 1 per 711 | +8% GB | DET: Punt |
| 2 | Q2 10:32 | Face Mask on the Packers (De'Vondre Campbell), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 2 flags in 2008 snaps before, position avg 1 per 409 | +6% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q3 12:20 | The Packers converted 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +10% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q3 10:30 | The Packers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 42% expected | +7% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 5:57 | The Lions were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 76% expected | +14% GB | DET: Turnover |
| 6 | Q3 5:26 | The Packers converted 3rd & 143rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +7% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 4:57 | Offensive Holding on the Packers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% DET | DET: Turnover |
| 8 | Q3 3:58 | The Packers converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +7% GB | GB: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- David Bakhtiari (GB T), out (IR) · 1.4 pts
- Za'Darius Smith (GB LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Lucas Patrick (GB G), out · 0.3 pts
- Taylor Decker (DET T), out (IR) · 1.1 pts
- Tyrell Crosby (DET OL), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Jeff Okudah (DET CB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Kevin Strong (DET DT), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Lions 0% · Packers 100%
- Final margin
- Packers by 18
- Luck in points
- 4.6 for the Packers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 13.4
- Replay with same day's form
- Lions 8% · Packers 92% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 2 2021 games ·
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