Week 8 2025 · October 26, 2025
Jets at Bengals, Week 8 2025: who deserved to win?
The Jets beat the Bengals 39–38, and the replays lean their way: with the same day's form, they win 7 of 10.
An off day for the Bengals: their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Jets they would win 64% of the time; with this day’s form, 29%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Bengals were 66% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 0:32 left): the Bengals were stopped on 4th & 9, worth 26 points of win probability to the Jets.
Final
| 39 | |
| 38 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +29 Jets lucky · −29 Bengals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Jets win 7, Bengals win 3.
- 1 NYJ 43 CIN 14
- 2 NYJ 37 CIN 17
- 3 NYJ 32 CIN 17
- 4 NYJ 24 CIN 13
- 5 NYJ 35 CIN 27
- 6 NYJ 30 CIN 24
- 7 NYJ 20 CIN 17
- 8 NYJ 20 CIN 23
- 9 NYJ 17 CIN 27
- 10 NYJ 21 CIN 40
Your call
Did the Jets earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Bengals
Their defense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Jets they would win 64% of the time; with this day’s form, 29%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
34 points apart for the Bengals: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jets offenseEPA per play gained | +0.33 | +0.03 | better by 0.30 |
| Jets defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.27 | +0.11 | worse by 0.16 |
| Bengals offenseEPA per play gained | +0.27 | +0.12 | better by 0.15 |
| Bengals defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.33 | +0.18 | worse by 0.15 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Jets win 71% of them, Bengals 29%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Jets by 1.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Jets by 17+ | 22.9% |
| Jets by 9–16 | 21.6% |
| Jets by 1–8 | 25.2% |
| Level after regulation | 3.4% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 14.7% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 7.3% |
| Bengals by 17+ | 4.9% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. McPherson, 26 yds made · 98% expected
- N. Folk, 46 yds made · 84% expected
- N. Folk, 25 yds made · 100% expected
- N. Folk, 24 yds made · 100% expected
Penalties: Jets 4 for 25 yards, Bengals 2 for 15 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q2 3:23 | Offensive Holding on the Bengals, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +5% NYJ +1.9 pts |
| Q2 1:28 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Jets (Quinnen Williams), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CIN +0.6 pts |
| Q2 0:24 | Illegal Contact on the Bengals (Cam Taylor-Britt), 5 yards | +2% NYJ +0.7 pts |
| Q3 10:58 | Offensive Holding on the Jets (Qwan'tez Stiggers), 10 yards | +2% CIN +0.8 pts |
| Q3 10:43 | False Start on the Jets (Mason Taylor), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% CIN +0.7 pts |
| Q4 15:00 | False Start on the Jets (Breece Hall), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CIN +0.7 pts |
Jets penalties, every game · Bengals penalties, every game · All teams, 2025
When it happened
Bengals’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 97%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:06 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 38% expected | +6% CIN | CIN: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 10:21 | The Bengals were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +4% NYJ | CIN: Field goal |
| 3 | Q1 8:20 | The Jets were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 77% expected | +9% CIN | NYJ: Punt |
| 4 | Q2 3:23 | Offensive Holding on the Bengals, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +5% NYJ | NYJ: Field goal |
| 5 | Q2 1:08 | The Jets converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +4% NYJ | NYJ: Field goal |
| 6 | Q3 5:29 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +4% CIN | CIN: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 0:37 | The Bengals were stopped on 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +6% NYJ | CIN: Turnover on downs |
| 8 | Q4 0:32 | The Bengals were stopped on 4th & 93rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +26% NYJ | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Joe Burrow (CIN QB), out (IR), replaced by j.flacco · 4.9 pts
- Mike Gesicki (CIN TE), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Tyrod Taylor (NYJ QB), out, replaced by j.fields · 1.5 pts
- Sauce Gardner (NYJ CB), out · 1.4 pts
- Garrett Wilson (NYJ WR), out · 1.1 pts
- Josh Reynolds (NYJ WR), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Jets 57% · Bengals 43%
- Final margin
- Jets by 1
- Luck in points
- 0.4 for the Jets
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Jets by 0.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Jets 71% · Bengals 29% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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