Week 2 2020 · September 21, 2020
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Saints at Raiders, Week 2 2020: who deserved to win?
The Raiders stole one. They beat the Saints 34–24, but replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Saints win 8 of 10. Luck ran their way: judgment calls alone were worth 7.4 points to the Raiders.
Before kickoff the Saints were 62% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 1:49 left): the Raiders converted 3rd & 9, worth 13 points of win probability to the Raiders.
Final
| 24 | |
| 34 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +81 Raiders very lucky · −81 Saints
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Saints win 8, Raiders win 2.
- 1 NO 45 LV 20
- 2 NO 30 LV 10
- 3 NO 23 LV 7
- 4 NO 33 LV 20
- 5 NO 37 LV 28
- 6 NO 17 LV 10
- 7 NO 35 LV 31
- 8 NO 26 LV 24
- 9 NO 31 LV 34
- 10 NO 6 LV 17
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Saints win 81% of them, Raiders 19%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Raiders by 10.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Saints by 17+ | 29.4% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 22.8% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 28.3% |
| Level after regulation | 2.5% |
| Raiders by 1–8 | 10.9% |
| Raiders by 9–16 | 4.7% |
| Raiders by 17+ | 1.4% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Raiders by 10. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Saints by 0.7.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- W. Lutz, 31 yds made · 96% expected
- D. Carlson, 28 yds made · 97% expected
- D. Carlson, 54 yds made · 65% expected
When it happened
Raiders’ chance of winning
As low as 24% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 5:39 | The Saints converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +10% NO | NO: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 5:27 | The Saints converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 31% expected | +8% NO | NO: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 2:37 | The Raiders converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +8% LV | LV: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 1:49 | The Raiders converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +13% LV | LV: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 14:16 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Saints (Marshon Lattimore), 20 yardsJudgment calls · 7 flags in 968 snaps before, position avg 1 per 207 | +7% LV | LV: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 10:03 | The Raiders converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 66% expected | +10% LV | LV: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 9:07 | Offensive Holding on the Saints, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +7% NO | LV: Turnover |
| 8 | Q4 14:14 | The Raiders were stopped on 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 60% expectedThe Raiders fumbled and the Saints recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +12% NO | LV: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Trent Brown (LV T), out · 0.6 pts
- Tyrell Williams (LV WR), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Michael Thomas (NO WR), out · 1.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Saints 55% · Raiders 45%
- Final margin
- Raiders by 10
- Luck in points
- 10.7 for the Raiders
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Saints by 0.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Saints 81% · Raiders 19% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 2 2020 games ·
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