Week 17 2022 · January 1, 2023
Saints at Eagles, Week 17 2022: who deserved to win?
The Saints beat the Eagles 20–10, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Saints win 9 of 10. The Eagles had the bounces: drops alone were worth 1.6 points to the Eagles.
An off day for the Eagles: their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Saints they would win 61% of the time; with this day’s form, 11%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Eagles were 66% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 5:31 left): Return touchdown by the Saints, worth 36 points of win probability to the Saints.
Final
| 20 | |
| 10 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +11 Saints about even · −11 Eagles
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Saints win 9, Eagles win 1.
- 1 NO 39 PHI 7
- 2 NO 39 PHI 15
- 3 NO 30 PHI 9
- 4 NO 37 PHI 20
- 5 NO 26 PHI 12
- 6 NO 24 PHI 13
- 7 NO 23 PHI 14
- 8 NO 16 PHI 10
- 9 NO 10 PHI 7
- 10 NO 20 PHI 27
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Eagles
Their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Saints they would win 61% of the time; with this day’s form, 11%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
50 points apart for the Eagles: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Saints offenseEPA per play gained | −0.04 | +0.06 | worse by 0.10 |
| Saints defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.12 | +0.04 | better by 0.17 |
| Eagles offenseEPA per play gained | −0.12 | +0.21 | worse by 0.33 |
| Eagles defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.04 | +0.09 | better by 0.13 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Saints win 89% of them, Eagles 11%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Saints by 10.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Saints by 17+ | 49.6% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 22.1% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 16.7% |
| Level after regulation | 1.8% |
| Eagles by 1–8 | 6.7% |
| Eagles by 9–16 | 2.5% |
| Eagles by 17+ | 0.6% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Saints by 10. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Saints by 3.5.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- W. Lutz, 54 yds made · 60% expected
- W. Lutz, 20 yds made · 98% expected
- J. Elliott, 56 yds made · 56% expected
When it happened
Eagles’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 57%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 6:47 | The Saints converted 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 49% expected | +9% NO | NO: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 5:48 | The Saints converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +8% NO | NO: Field goal |
| 3 | Q3 11:12 | Offensive Holding on the Eagles, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +14% NO | NO: Punt |
| 4 | Q4 14:17 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 49% expected | +9% PHI | NO: Punt |
| 5 | Q4 12:57 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Eagles, 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +15% NO | NO: Punt |
| 6 | Q4 8:35 | The Eagles were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +15% NO | PHI: Opp touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 6:26 | J. Johnson dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 45 catchable balls before this | +8% PHI | NO: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 5:31 | The Eagles threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 39% expected to stay out of the defense's handsReturn touchdown by the SaintsSpecial teams | +36% NO | PHI: Turnover on downs |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Lane Johnson (PHI T), out · 1.2 pts
- Avonte Maddox (PHI CB), out · 0.3 pts
- Arryn Siposs (PHI P), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Jarvis Landry (NO WR), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Andrus Peat (NO G), out · 0.4 pts
- Marcus Maye (NO FS), out · 0.4 pts
- Cesar Ruiz (NO G), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Saints 64% · Eagles 36%
- Final margin
- Saints by 10
- Luck in points
- 6.5 for the Saints
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Saints by 3.5
- Replay with same day's form
- Saints 89% · Eagles 11% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 17 2022 games ·
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