Week 11 2024 · November 17, 2024
Bengals at Chargers, Week 11 2024: who deserved to win?
The Chargers beat the Bengals 34–27, but the replays lean toward the Bengals: they take 7 of 10 with the same day's form. Luck ran their way: kicks alone were worth 31 points of win probability to the Chargers.
Before kickoff it was a pick’em. The game turned on a luck play (Q4, 1:52 left): E. McPherson missed a 51-yard field goal, worth 20 points of win probability to the Chargers. The biggest single swing (Q4, 9:57 left): Roughing the Passer on the Chargers (Otito Ogbonnia), 15 yards, wiping out the play.
Final
| 27 | |
| 34 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +69 Chargers very lucky · −69 Bengals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Bengals win 7, Chargers win 3.
- 1 CIN 43 LAC 16
- 2 CIN 36 LAC 17
- 3 CIN 52 LAC 37
- 4 CIN 39 LAC 28
- 5 CIN 40 LAC 33
- 6 CIN 32 LAC 27
- 7 CIN 30 LAC 28
- 8 CIN 13 LAC 16
- 9 CIN 30 LAC 37
- 10 CIN 23 LAC 41
Your call
Did the Chargers earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Bengals win 69% of them, Chargers 31%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chargers by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Bengals by 17+ | 25.1% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 18.7% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 24.2% |
| Level after regulation | 3.0% |
| Chargers by 1–8 | 16.2% |
| Chargers by 9–16 | 7.8% |
| Chargers by 17+ | 5.1% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. McPherson, 26 yds made · 99% expected
- E. McPherson, 27 yds made · 98% expected
- C. Dicker, 19 yds made · 100% expected
- C. Dicker, 53 yds made · 74% expected
- E. McPherson, 48 yds missed · 80% expected
- E. McPherson, 51 yds missed · 73% expected
Penalties: Bengals 8 for 56 yards, Chargers 5 for 50 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 9:40 | Horse Collar Tackle on the Chargers (Derwin James), 14 yards | +5% CIN +1.0 pts |
| Q1 7:30 | Illegal Shift on the Bengals, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% LAC +0.9 pts |
| Q1 7:24 | Intentional Grounding on the Bengals (Joe Burrow), 10 yards | +3% LAC +0.9 pts |
| Q2 14:21 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Chargers (Kristian Fulton), 8 yards | +3% CIN +1.1 pts |
| Q2 6:08 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Bengals (B.J. Hill), 2 yards | +1% LAC +0.4 pts |
| Q2 0:32 | Roughing the Passer on the Bengals (Trey Hendrickson), 15 yards | +1% LAC +1.2 pts |
| Q2 0:08 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Bengals (Josh Newton), 4 yards | +2% LAC +0.4 pts |
| Q3 13:49 | Ineligible Downfield Kick on the Bengals (Akeem Davis-Gaither), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +2% LAC +1.6 pts |
| Q3 7:37 | Defensive Holding on the Chargers (Cam Hart), 3 yards | 0% CIN +0.5 pts |
| Q4 14:21 | Offensive Holding on the Bengals, 10 yards | +3% LAC +0.9 pts |
| Q4 11:56 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Bengals (Trey Hendrickson), 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% LAC +0.4 pts |
| Q4 9:57 | Roughing the Passer on the Chargers (Otito Ogbonnia), 15 yards, wiping out the play | +28% CIN +4.3 pts |
| Q4 6:09 | Offensive Holding on the Chargers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +13% CIN +2.2 pts |
Bengals penalties, every game · Chargers penalties, every game · All teams, 2024
When it happened
Chargers’ chance of winning
As low as 32% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q4 9:57 | Roughing the Passer on the Chargers (Otito Ogbonnia), 15 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 2 flags in 700 snaps before, position avg 1 per 316 | +28% CIN | CIN: Missed field goal |
| 2 | Q4 9:04 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 31% expected | +14% CIN | CIN: Missed field goal |
| 3 | Q4 7:40 | The Bengals were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +7% LAC | CIN: Missed field goal |
| 4 | Q4 7:35 | E. McPherson missed a 48-yard field goalKicks · 80% expected for him, 41 of 56 from 45+ before | +8% LAC | CIN: Missed field goal |
| 5 | Q4 6:09 | Offensive Holding on the Chargers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +13% CIN | CIN: Missed field goal |
| 6 | Q4 1:56 | J. Chase dropped a catchable passDrops · 10 drops on 317 catchable balls before this | +16% LAC | CIN: Missed field goal |
| 7 | Q4 1:52 | The game turned hereE. McPherson missed a 51-yard field goalKicks · 73% expected for him, 41 of 57 from 45+ before | +20% LAC | CIN: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 1:43 | The Chargers got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · defenses catch 56% of interception-worthy throws | +18% LAC | LAC: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Khalil Mack (LAC DE), out · 1.1 pts
- Asante Samuel Jr. (LAC CB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Simi Fehoko (LAC WR), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Daxton Hill (CIN CB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Sheldon Rankins (CIN DT), out · 0.3 pts
- Zack Moss (CIN RB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Bengals 26% · Chargers 74%
- Final margin
- Chargers by 7
- Luck in points
- 1.5 for the Chargers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Chargers by 5.5
- Replay with same day's form
- Bengals 69% · Chargers 31% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 11 2024 games ·
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Chargers
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