Week 17 2024 · December 29, 2024
Packers at Vikings, Week 17 2024: who deserved to win?
The Vikings beat the Packers 27–25, and the replays lean their way: with the same day's form, they win 8 of 10. The Packers had the bounces: kicks alone were worth 14 points of win probability to the Packers.
Before kickoff it was a pick’em. The biggest swing (Q2, 7:33 left): the Packers were stopped on 4th & 2, worth 12 points of win probability to the Vikings.
Final
| 25 | |
| 27 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +22 Vikings about even · −22 Packers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Packers win 2, Vikings win 8.
- 1 GB 26 MIN 14
- 2 GB 37 MIN 34
- 3 GB 31 MIN 33
- 4 GB 14 MIN 19
- 5 GB 16 MIN 23
- 6 GB 20 MIN 30
- 7 GB 24 MIN 37
- 8 GB 2 MIN 20
- 9 GB 3 MIN 24
- 10 GB 3 MIN 33
Your call
Did the Vikings earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Packers win 22% of them, Vikings 78%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Vikings by 2.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Packers by 17+ | 2.4% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 5.9% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 12.2% |
| Level after regulation | 2.4% |
| Vikings by 1–8 | 25.3% |
| Vikings by 9–16 | 21.4% |
| Vikings by 17+ | 30.3% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- W. Reichard, 57 yds missed · 67% expected
- B. McManus, 22 yds made · 99% expected
- W. Reichard, 25 yds made · 98% expected
- W. Reichard, 50 yds made · 73% expected
- W. Reichard, 43 yds missed · 86% expected
Penalties: Packers 7 for 51 yards, Vikings 7 for 47 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 4:21 | Low Block on the Vikings (Harrison Smith), 10 yards | +4% GB +1.3 pts |
| Q2 15:00 | False Start on the Vikings, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% GB +0.6 pts |
| Q2 9:41 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Vikings (Byron Murphy), 12 yards | +5% GB +1.1 pts |
| Q2 6:06 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Packers (Keisean Nixon), 17 yards | +2% MIN +1.0 pts |
| Q2 1:36 | Illegal Formation on the Packers, 4 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +3% MIN +1.2 pts |
| Q2 0:04 | Defensive Offside on the Packers (Edgerrin Cooper), 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% MIN +0.7 pts |
| Q3 11:26 | Delay of Game on the Vikings, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% GB +0.7 pts |
| Q3 9:44 | Kickoff Short of Landing Zone on the Vikings (Will Reichard), 0 yards · pre-snap | 0% GB 0.0 pts |
| Q3 9:15 | Offensive Too Many Men on Field on the Packers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% MIN +0.6 pts |
| Q4 14:38 | Illegal Formation on the Packers, 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +1% MIN +1.6 pts |
| Q4 7:37 | Offensive Holding on the Packers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +3% MIN +3.4 pts |
| Q4 5:19 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +5% GB +2.8 pts |
| Q4 4:43 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Packers (Karl Brooks), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% MIN +0.4 pts |
| Q4 3:29 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Vikings, 5 yards · pre-snap | +4% GB +0.5 pts |
Packers penalties, every game · Vikings penalties, every game · All teams, 2024
When it happened
Vikings’ chance of winning
As low as 42% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:16 | The Packers fumbled and the Vikings recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% MIN | GB: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 6:07 | W. Reichard missed a 57-yard field goalKicks · 67% expected for him, 9 of 11 from 45+ before | +10% GB | MIN: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 4:59 | The Packers converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 52% expected | +7% GB | GB: Field goal |
| 4 | Q2 14:20 | The Vikings converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 48% expected | +8% MIN | MIN: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 9:41 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Vikings (Byron Murphy), 12 yardsJudgment calls · 23 flags in 5594 snaps before, position avg 1 per 215 | +5% GB | GB: Turnover on downs |
| 6 | Q2 7:33 | The Packers were stopped on 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 61% expected | +12% MIN | GB: Punt |
| 7 | Q4 5:19 | Offensive Holding on the Vikings, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +5% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 4:04 | The Packers converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +5% GB | GB: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Christian Watson (GB WR), out · 0.6 pts
- Jaire Alexander (GB CB), out · 0.5 pts
- Quay Walker (GB LB), out · 0.4 pts
- Jordan Morgan (GB T), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Evan Williams (GB SS), out · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Packers 28% · Vikings 72%
- Final margin
- Vikings by 2
- Luck in points
- 0.2 for the Vikings
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Vikings by 1.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Packers 22% · Vikings 78% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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