Week 13 2022 · December 5, 2022
Saints at Buccaneers, Week 13 2022: who deserved to win?
The Buccaneers beat the Saints 17–16, but the Saints played well enough to win it: they take 8 of 10 replays with the same day's form. Luck ran their way: drops alone were worth 2.9 points to the Buccaneers.
The Buccaneers won on an off day: they played far below what the matchup promised. In a fresh game against the Saints they would win 59% of the time; with this day’s form, 25%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Buccaneers were 60% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 0:19 left): Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the play, worth 57 points of win probability to the Saints.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +75 Buccaneers very lucky · −75 Saints
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Saints win 8, Buccaneers win 2.
- 1 NO 37 TB 9
- 2 NO 33 TB 13
- 3 NO 36 TB 20
- 4 NO 19 TB 7
- 5 NO 30 TB 21
- 6 NO 23 TB 17
- 7 NO 24 TB 20
- 8 NO 12 TB 10
- 9 NO 20 TB 23
- 10 NO 3 TB 15
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
The Buccaneers won on an off day
They played far below what the matchup promised. In a fresh game against the Saints they would win 59% of the time; with this day’s form, 25%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
34 points apart for the Buccaneers: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Saints offenseEPA per play gained | +0.03 | +0.06 | worse by 0.04 |
| Saints defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.07 | +0.05 | worse by 0.02 |
| Buccaneers offenseEPA per play gained | +0.07 | +0.11 | worse by 0.03 |
| Buccaneers defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.03 | +0.07 | better by 0.04 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Saints win 75% of them, Buccaneers 25%, counting the 4% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Buccaneers by 1.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Saints by 17+ | 24.0% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 23.7% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 24.4% |
| Level after regulation | 3.7% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 13.9% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 7.0% |
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 3.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Buccaneers by 1. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Saints by 0.3.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- R. Succop, 21 yds made · 98% expected
- W. Lutz, 38 yds made · 90% expected
- W. Lutz, 21 yds made · 98% expected
- W. Lutz, 29 yds made · 96% expected
When it happened
Buccaneers’ chance of winning
As low as 1% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 0:24 | Offensive Holding on the Saints, 10 yardsJudgment calls | +9% TB | TB: Punt |
| 2 | Q2 11:02 | The Saints converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 45% expected | +7% NO | NO: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 8:59 | The Saints converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +9% NO | NO: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q4 2:47 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 173rd & 4th downs · 18% expectedT. Hill dropped a catchable passDrops · 1 drops on 9 catchable balls before this | +11% TB | NO: Punt |
| 5 | Q4 0:58 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +10% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q4 0:19 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +57% NO | NO: End of game |
| 7 | Q4 0:08 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +42% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 0:03 | The Saints fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50Leverage on the Saints (Tanoh Kpassagnon), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 3 flags in 2458 snaps before, position avg 1 per 277 | +30% TB | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Tristan Wirfs (TB T), out · 1.6 pts
- Luke Goedeke (TB G), out · 0.4 pts
- Mike Edwards (TB FS), out · 0.3 pts
- Shaquil Barrett (TB LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Erik McCoy (NO C), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Pete Werner (NO LB), out · 0.4 pts
- Juwan Johnson (NO TE), out · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Saints 57% · Buccaneers 43%
- Final margin
- Buccaneers by 1
- Luck in points
- 1.3 for the Buccaneers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Saints by 0.3
- Replay with same day's form
- Saints 75% · Buccaneers 25% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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