Week 13 2023 · December 3, 2023
Chiefs at Packers, Week 13 2023: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Chiefs 27–19, but the Chiefs played well enough to win it: they take 8 of 10 replays with the same day's form. Luck ran their way: judgment calls alone were worth 2.8 points to the Packers.
Before kickoff the Chiefs were 66% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 6:56 left): the Packers converted 4th & 1, worth 11 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
| 19 | |
| 27 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +75 Packers very lucky · −75 Chiefs
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Chiefs win 8, Packers win 2.
- 1 KC 28 GB 3
- 2 KC 26 GB 7
- 3 KC 31 GB 16
- 4 KC 23 GB 10
- 5 KC 10 GB 0
- 6 KC 13 GB 6
- 7 KC 27 GB 23
- 8 KC 20 GB 17
- 9 KC 21 GB 24
- 10 KC 19 GB 30
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Chiefs win 75% of them, Packers 25%, counting the 5% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 8.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Chiefs by 17+ | 22.5% |
| Chiefs by 9–16 | 22.6% |
| Chiefs by 1–8 | 27.3% |
| Level after regulation | 4.8% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 15.3% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 5.5% |
| Packers by 17+ | 1.9% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Packers by 8. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Packers by 5.7.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- H. Butker, 34 yds made · 93% expected
- H. Butker, 34 yds made · 93% expected
- A. Carlson, 40 yds made · 84% expected
- A. Carlson, 48 yds made · 68% expected
When it happened
Packers’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 3:30 | The Chiefs converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +7% KC | KC: Field goal |
| 2 | Q3 14:25 | Offensive Holding on the Chiefs, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q3 12:41 | The Chiefs converted 3rd & 183rd & 4th downs · 21% expected | +8% KC | KC: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q3 9:39 | The Chiefs’ two-point try failed3rd & 4th downs · 47% expected | +6% GB | KC: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 6:56 | The Packers converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 75% expected | +11% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q4 5:20 | The Chiefs threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 45% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +6% GB | KC: Turnover on downs |
| 7 | Q4 1:05 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Packers, 15 yardsJudgment calls | +6% KC | KC: Turnover on downs |
| 8 | Q4 0:57 | Disqualification on the Chiefs (Isiah Pacheco), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 0 flags in 1005 snaps before, position avg 1 per 870 | +11% GB | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Jaire Alexander (GB CB), out · 0.9 pts
- Luke Musgrave (GB TE), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Nick Bolton (KC LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Chiefs 19% · Packers 81%
- Final margin
- Packers by 8
- Luck in points
- 2.3 for the Packers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 5.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Chiefs 75% · Packers 25% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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