Week 13 2023 · December 3, 2023
Panthers at Buccaneers, Week 13 2023: who deserved to win?
The Buccaneers beat the Panthers 21–18, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Buccaneers win 9 of 10. The Panthers had the bounces: drops alone were worth 3.1 points to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Buccaneers were 62% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 2:21 left): the Panthers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was picked, worth 27 points of win probability to the Buccaneers.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +9 Buccaneers about even · −9 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 1, Buccaneers win 9.
- 1 CAR 19 TB 12
- 2 CAR 17 TB 19
- 3 CAR 27 TB 33
- 4 CAR 23 TB 32
- 5 CAR 9 TB 20
- 6 CAR 3 TB 17
- 7 CAR 7 TB 24
- 8 CAR 7 TB 27
- 9 CAR 3 TB 27
- 10 CAR 17 TB 48
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 9% of them, Buccaneers 91%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Buccaneers by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.4% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 2.5% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 5.4% |
| Level after regulation | 1.2% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 17.2% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 21.3% |
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 52.0% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Buccaneers by 3. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Buccaneers by 4.5.
When it happened
Buccaneers’ chance of winning
As low as 43% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 7:34 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +16% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 2:31 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 51% expectedThe Buccaneers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 44% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +13% CAR | TB: Punt |
| 3 | Q2 1:13 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Buccaneers (Cade Otton), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 4 flags in 1673 snaps before, position avg 1 per 286 | +10% CAR | CAR: Turnover on downs |
| 4 | Q2 0:19 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +9% TB | TB: Punt |
| 5 | Q3 9:26 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +8% CAR | TB: Punt |
| 6 | Q3 8:01 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +9% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 2:21 | The Panthers were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 72% expectedThe Panthers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 47% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +27% TB | – |
| 8 | Q4 2:00 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +8% TB | TB: End of game |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Jamel Dean (TB CB), out · 0.7 pts
- Lavonte David (TB LB), out · 0.6 pts
- Devin White (TB LB), out · 0.6 pts
- Vonn Bell (CAR SS), out · 0.6 pts
- Hayden Hurst (CAR TE), out · 0.4 pts
- Austin Corbett (CAR G), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 25% · Buccaneers 75%
- Final margin
- Buccaneers by 3
- Luck in points
- 1.5 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Buccaneers by 4.5
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 9% · Buccaneers 91% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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