Week 4 2024 · September 29, 2024
Chiefs at Chargers, Week 4 2024: who deserved to win?
The Chiefs beat the Chargers 17–10, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Chiefs win 10 of 10. The Chargers had the bounces: fumble bounces alone were worth 3.1 points to the Chargers.
Before kickoff the Chiefs were 71% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 13:35 left): the Chiefs converted 3rd & 8, worth 13 points of win probability to the Chiefs.
Final
| 17 | |
| 10 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +4 Chiefs about even · −4 Chargers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Chiefs win 10, Chargers win 0.
- 1 KC 35 LAC 0
- 2 KC 30 LAC 3
- 3 KC 35 LAC 12
- 4 KC 23 LAC 3
- 5 KC 17 LAC 0
- 6 KC 31 LAC 16
- 7 KC 38 LAC 27
- 8 KC 24 LAC 15
- 9 KC 19 LAC 13
- 10 KC 16 LAC 13
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Chiefs win 96% of them, Chargers 4%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chiefs by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Chiefs by 17+ | 64.8% |
| Chiefs by 9–16 | 21.5% |
| Chiefs by 1–8 | 9.6% |
| Level after regulation | 0.5% |
| Chargers by 1–8 | 3.0% |
| Chargers by 9–16 | 0.6% |
| Chargers by 17+ | 0.1% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Chiefs by 7. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Chiefs by 6.9.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- C. Dicker, 50 yds made · 78% expected
- H. Butker, 65 yds missed · 60% expected
- C. Dicker, 55 yds missed · 71% expected
- H. Butker, 37 yds made · 94% expected
When it happened
Chargers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 86%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:35 | The Chiefs converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +13% KC | KC: Turnover |
| 2 | Q1 12:59 | The Chiefs fumbled and the Chargers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +7% LAC | KC: Turnover |
| 3 | Q2 0:38 | Offensive Holding on the Chiefs, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +7% LAC | LAC: Missed field goal |
| 4 | Q3 8:50 | The Chiefs converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 25% expected | +12% KC | KC: Field goal |
| 5 | Q4 13:37 | The Chargers were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 64% expected | +11% KC | LAC: Punt |
| 6 | Q4 11:09 | The Chiefs converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 50% expected | +7% KC | KC: Punt |
| 7 | Q4 10:37 | Offensive Holding on the Chiefs (Noah Gray), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 2 flags in 2892 snaps before, position avg 1 per 280 | +8% LAC | LAC: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 2:22 | The Chiefs converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +7% KC | KC: End of game |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Rashawn Slater (LAC T), out · 1.0 pts
- Joe Alt (LAC T), out · 0.7 pts
- Derwin James (LAC SS), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Derwin James (LAC LB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Michael Danna (KC DE), out · 0.4 pts
- Isiah Pacheco (KC RB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Chiefs 92% · Chargers 8%
- Final margin
- Chiefs by 7
- Luck in points
- 0.1 for the Chiefs
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Chiefs by 6.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Chiefs 96% · Chargers 4% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 4 2024 games ·
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