Week 4 2024 · September 29, 2024
Eagles at Buccaneers, Week 4 2024: who deserved to win?
The Buccaneers beat the Eagles 33–16, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Buccaneers win 9 of 10. The Eagles had the bounces: drops alone were worth 3.7 points to the Eagles.
Before kickoff it was a pick’em.
Final
| 16 | |
| 33 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +15 Buccaneers about even · −15 Eagles
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Eagles win 1, Buccaneers win 9.
- 1 PHI 13 TB 6
- 2 PHI 14 TB 17
- 3 PHI 17 TB 23
- 4 PHI 14 TB 23
- 5 PHI 6 TB 19
- 6 PHI 9 TB 23
- 7 PHI 14 TB 31
- 8 PHI 7 TB 28
- 9 PHI 13 TB 37
- 10 PHI 3 TB 33
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Eagles win 15% of them, Buccaneers 85%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Buccaneers by 17.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Eagles by 17+ | 1.0% |
| Eagles by 9–16 | 3.1% |
| Eagles by 1–8 | 9.7% |
| Level after regulation | 1.5% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 19.5% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 23.1% |
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 42.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Buccaneers by 17. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Buccaneers by 10.0.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- C. McLaughlin, 21 yds made · 99% expected
- C. McLaughlin, 52 yds made · 68% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
When it happened
Buccaneers’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:16 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 76% expected | +5% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 11:03 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 63% expected | +7% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 5:03 | D. Goedert dropped a catchable passDrops · 6 drops on 170 catchable balls before this | +3% TB | PHI: Punt |
| 4 | Q2 2:00 | The Eagles converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 67% expected | +5% PHI | PHI: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 11:48 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +3% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 10:28 | The Buccaneers converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +3% TB | TB: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q3 6:49 | The Buccaneers missed an extra pointKicks · extra points are made about 94% of the time | +3% PHI | TB: Field goal |
| 8 | Q3 2:44 | The Eagles fumbled and the Buccaneers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +5% TB | PHI: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Antoine Winfield Jr. (TB FS), out · 0.9 pts
- Luke Goedeke (TB G), out · 0.4 pts
- Calijah Kancey (TB DE), out · 0.4 pts
- Jalen McMillan (TB WR), out · 0.4 pts
- Jake Camarda (TB P), out · 0.3 pts
- Evan Deckers (TB LS), out (IR) · 0.1 pts
- A.J. Brown (PHI WR), out · 1.7 pts
- DeVonta Smith (PHI WR), out · 1.5 pts
- James Bradberry (PHI CB), out (IR) · 1.2 pts
- Lane Johnson (PHI T), out · 1.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Eagles 3% · Buccaneers 97%
- Final margin
- Buccaneers by 17
- Luck in points
- 7.0 for the Buccaneers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Buccaneers by 10.0
- Replay with same day's form
- Eagles 15% · Buccaneers 85% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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