Week 8 2019 · October 27, 2019
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Bengals vs Rams, Week 8 2019: who deserved to win?
The Rams beat the Bengals 24–10, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Rams win 9 of 10. The Bengals had the bounces: judgment calls alone were worth 6.3 points to the Bengals.
Before kickoff the Rams were 81% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 2:38 left): the Bengals converted 4th & 2, worth 11 points of win probability to the Bengals.
Final
| 10 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +9 Rams about even · −9 Bengals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Bengals win 1, Rams win 9.
- 1 CIN 20 LA 14
- 2 CIN 20 LA 22
- 3 CIN 27 LA 31
- 4 CIN 10 LA 17
- 5 CIN 6 LA 16
- 6 CIN 14 LA 26
- 7 CIN 13 LA 28
- 8 CIN 0 LA 19
- 9 CIN 7 LA 31
- 10 CIN 7 LA 39
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Bengals win 9% of them, Rams 91%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Rams by 14.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Bengals by 17+ | 0.5% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 2.0% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 5.8% |
| Level after regulation | 1.2% |
| Rams by 1–8 | 18.0% |
| Rams by 9–16 | 23.1% |
| Rams by 17+ | 49.5% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Rams by 14. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Rams by 19.7.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- G. Zuerlein, 23 yds made · 99% expected
- R. Bullock, 28 yds made · 97% expected
When it happened
Rams’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 11:27 | The Rams converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +10% LA | LA: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 5:28 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 41% expected | +11% CIN | CIN: Field goal |
| 3 | Q1 2:38 | The Bengals converted 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 60% expected | +11% CIN | CIN: Field goal |
| 4 | Q2 13:47 | The Rams converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 42% expected | +8% LA | LA: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 11:35 | The Rams converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +10% LA | LA: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 8:51 | The Bengals converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +6% CIN | CIN: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q2 1:20 | The Bengals were stopped on 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +7% LA | CIN: Punt |
| 8 | Q3 12:48 | The Rams converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +9% LA | LA: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Aqib Talib (LA CB), out (IR) · 1.2 pts
- John Johnson (LA SS), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Clay Matthews (LA LB), out · 0.4 pts
- Dre Kirkpatrick (CIN CB), out · 0.6 pts
- John Ross (CIN WR), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Andre Smith (CIN T), out · 0.4 pts
- Darqueze Dennard (CIN CB), out · 0.4 pts
- John Miller (CIN G), out · 0.4 pts
- Carl Lawson (CIN DE), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Bengals 0% · Rams 100%
- Final margin
- Rams by 14
- Luck in points
- 5.7 for the Bengals
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Rams by 19.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Bengals 9% · Rams 91% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2019 games ·
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Rams
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