Week 10 2021 · November 14, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Seahawks at Packers, Week 10 2021: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Seahawks 17–0 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 8 of 10. The Seahawks had the bounces: kicks alone were worth 3.3 points to the Seahawks.
Before kickoff the Packers were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q3, 7:53 left): the Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 10, worth 16 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
| 0 | |
| 17 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +21 Packers about even · −21 Seahawks
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Seahawks win 2, Packers win 8.
- 1 SEA 33 GB 20
- 2 SEA 13 GB 10
- 3 SEA 29 GB 31
- 4 SEA 20 GB 25
- 5 SEA 21 GB 29
- 6 SEA 9 GB 20
- 7 SEA 10 GB 24
- 8 SEA 3 GB 19
- 9 SEA 14 GB 34
- 10 SEA 3 GB 31
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Seahawks win 21% of them, Packers 79%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 17.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Seahawks by 17+ | 2.2% |
| Seahawks by 9–16 | 5.8% |
| Seahawks by 1–8 | 10.8% |
| Level after regulation | 3.2% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 25.9% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 20.7% |
| Packers by 17+ | 31.4% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Packers by 17. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Packers by 25.5.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- M. Crosby, 42 yds missed · 80% expected
- M. Crosby, 27 yds made · 97% expected
When it happened
Packers’ chance of winning
As low as 43% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 14:12 | The Packers converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +13% GB | GB: Missed field goal |
| 2 | Q1 10:53 | M. Crosby missed 42-yard field goalKicks · 80% expected for him | +8% SEA | GB: Punt |
| 3 | Q2 7:52 | The Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +7% GB | SEA: Punt |
| 4 | Q2 4:06 | The Packers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +7% GB | GB: Turnover on downs |
| 5 | Q2 0:50 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +7% SEA | SEA: End of half |
| 6 | Q3 12:14 | Offensive Holding on the Packers, 9 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +8% SEA | SEA: Turnover |
| 7 | Q3 7:53 | The Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +16% GB | SEA: Punt |
| 8 | Q3 2:39 | The Packers were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +14% SEA | GB: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Jaire Alexander (GB CB), out (IR) · 0.9 pts
- Josh Myers (GB C), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Robert Tonyan (GB TE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Kingsley Keke (GB DE), out · 0.3 pts
- Chris Carson (SEA RB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Seahawks 0% · Packers 100%
- Final margin
- Packers by 17
- Luck in points
- 8.5 for the Seahawks
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 25.5
- Replay with same day's form
- Seahawks 21% · Packers 79% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 10 2021 games ·
Seahawks ·
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