Week 5 2021 · October 10, 2021
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Packers at Bengals, Week 5 2021: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Bengals 25–22, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Packers win 9 of 10. The Bengals had the bounces: kicks alone were worth 3.0 points to the Bengals.
Before kickoff the Packers were 56% favorites. The biggest swing (QOT, 8:12 left): M. Crosby missed 40-yard field goal, worth 42 points of win probability to the Bengals.
Final (OT)
| 25 | |
| 22 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +14 Packers about even · −14 Bengals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Packers win 9, Bengals win 1.
- 1 GB 41 CIN 6
- 2 GB 62 CIN 36
- 3 GB 40 CIN 20
- 4 GB 33 CIN 16
- 5 GB 27 CIN 14
- 6 GB 19 CIN 9
- 7 GB 30 CIN 23
- 8 GB 35 CIN 31
- 9 GB 23 CIN 20
- 10 GB 24 CIN 31
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Packers win 86% of them, Bengals 14%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Packers by 17+ | 46.8% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 21.3% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 18.1% |
| Level after regulation | 1.7% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 7.4% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 3.5% |
| Bengals by 17+ | 1.3% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Packers by 3. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Packers by 5.9.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- M. Crosby, 44 yds made · 80% expected
- M. Crosby, 44 yds made · 81% expected
- M. Crosby, 22 yds made · 100% expected
- M. Crosby, 36 yds missed · 92% expected
- E. McPherson, 57 yds missed · 57% expected
- M. Crosby, 51 yds missed · 70% expected
- M. Crosby, 40 yds missed · 86% expected
- E. McPherson, 49 yds missed · 70% expected
- M. Crosby, 49 yds made · 72% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
When it happened
Bengals’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 77%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q4 3:27 | The Bengals’ two-point try was good3rd & 4th downs · 47% expected | +14% CIN | CIN: Missed field goal |
| 2 | Q4 2:16 | M. Crosby missed 36-yard field goalKicks · 92% expected for him | +23% CIN | GB: Missed field goal |
| 3 | Q4 0:26 | E. McPherson missed 57-yard field goalKicks · 57% expected for him, 2 of 2 from 45+ before | +32% GB | CIN: Turnover |
| 4 | Q4 0:03 | M. Crosby missed 51-yard field goalKicks · 70% expected for him, 12 of 14 from 45+ before | +30% CIN | GB: Missed field goal |
| 5 | QOT 8:12 | M. Crosby missed 40-yard field goalKicks · 86% expected for him | +42% CIN | GB: Field goal |
| 6 | QOT 6:44 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 59% expected | +22% CIN | CIN: Missed field goal |
| 7 | QOT 2:33 | The Packers were stopped on 3rd & 163rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +41% GB | GB: Field goal |
| 8 | QOT 2:00 | M. Crosby made 49-yard field goalKicks · 72% expected for him, 12 of 15 from 45+ before | +26% GB | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Xavier Su'a-Filo (CIN G), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Fred Johnson (CIN OT), out · 0.2 pts
- Jaire Alexander (GB CB), out (IR) · 0.9 pts
- Josh Myers (GB C), out · 0.6 pts
- Elgton Jenkins (GB G), out · 0.5 pts
- Marquez Valdes-Scantling (GB WR), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Za'Darius Smith (GB LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Packers 69% · Bengals 31%
- Final margin
- Packers by 3
- Luck in points
- 2.9 for the Bengals
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 5.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Packers 86% · Bengals 14% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
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