Week 14 2022 · December 11, 2022
Panthers at Seahawks, Week 14 2022: who deserved to win?
The Panthers beat the Seahawks 30–24, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Panthers win 5 of 10. Luck ran their way: judgment calls alone were worth 3.1 points to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Seahawks were 60% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 6:26 left): the Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 9, worth 14 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
| 30 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +45 Panthers lucky · −45 Seahawks
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 5, Seahawks win 5.
- 1 CAR 26 SEA 6
- 2 CAR 20 SEA 7
- 3 CAR 15 SEA 7
- 4 CAR 19 SEA 13
- 5 CAR 8 SEA 6
- 6 CAR 10 SEA 13
- 7 CAR 10 SEA 17
- 8 CAR 17 SEA 27
- 9 CAR 0 SEA 14
- 10 CAR 0 SEA 22
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 55% of them, Seahawks 45%, counting the 7% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Panthers by 6.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 11.6% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 16.1% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 21.5% |
| Level after regulation | 6.7% |
| Seahawks by 1–8 | 20.0% |
| Seahawks by 9–16 | 14.6% |
| Seahawks by 17+ | 9.5% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Panthers by 6. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Panthers by 1.6.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. Pineiro, 47 yds made · 80% expected
- E. Pineiro, 32 yds made · 95% expected
- J. Myers, 27 yds made · 98% expected
- E. Pineiro, 39 yds made · 89% expected
When it happened
Seahawks’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 61%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:37 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +7% CAR | CAR: Field goal |
| 2 | Q2 6:26 | The Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 27% expectedThe Seahawks threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 45% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +14% CAR | SEA: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 0:20 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +7% SEA | SEA: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q3 1:41 | The Panthers converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 64% expected | +7% CAR | CAR: Turnover on downs |
| 5 | Q3 0:34 | D. Metcalf dropped a catchable passDrops · 4 drops on 84 catchable balls before this | +7% CAR | SEA: Punt |
| 6 | Q3 0:26 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +6% SEA | SEA: Punt |
| 7 | Q4 13:09 | The Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +7% CAR | SEA: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 10:25 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 59% expected | +7% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Shelby Harris (SEA DE), out · 0.3 pts
- Donte Jackson (CAR CB), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Xavier Woods (CAR FS), out · 0.5 pts
- Pat Elflein (CAR C), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 63% · Seahawks 37%
- Final margin
- Panthers by 6
- Luck in points
- 4.4 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Panthers by 1.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 55% · Seahawks 45% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 14 2022 games ·
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