Week 18 2022 · January 8, 2023
Panthers at Saints, Week 18 2022: who deserved to win?
The Panthers stole one. They beat the Saints 10–7, but replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Saints win 9 of 10. Luck ran their way: kicks alone were worth 7.2 points to the Panthers.
Before kickoff the Saints were 60% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 1:24 left): W. Lutz had a 55-yard field goal blocked, worth 29 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +90 Panthers very lucky · −90 Saints
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 1, Saints win 9.
- 1 CAR 26 NO 20
- 2 CAR 19 NO 22
- 3 CAR 17 NO 23
- 4 CAR 13 NO 23
- 5 CAR 12 NO 23
- 6 CAR 23 NO 38
- 7 CAR 10 NO 28
- 8 CAR 10 NO 30
- 9 CAR 6 NO 31
- 10 CAR 5 NO 39
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 10% of them, Saints 90%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Panthers by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.5% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 2.1% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 5.7% |
| Level after regulation | 1.8% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 17.9% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 21.3% |
| Saints by 17+ | 50.8% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Panthers by 3. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Saints by 15.7.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- W. Lutz, 44 yds missed · 83% expected
- W. Lutz, 55 yds blocked · 65% expected
- E. Pineiro, 42 yds made · 87% expected
When it happened
Saints’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 82%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 7:21 | The Saints were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +10% CAR | NO: Turnover |
| 2 | Q3 6:52 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 37% expectedThe Panthers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +16% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q4 14:19 | Encroachment on the Panthers (Derrick Brown), 5 yardsPre-snap flags · 15 flags in 2398 snaps before, position avg 1 per 303 | +10% NO | NO: Punt |
| 4 | Q4 12:39 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +8% CAR | NO: Punt |
| 5 | Q4 2:00 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 44% expected | +8% CAR | NO: Punt |
| 6 | Q4 1:47 | The Panthers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 40% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +18% NO | CAR: Field goal |
| 7 | Q4 1:24 | W. Lutz had a 55-yard field goal blockedKicks · 65% expected for him, 23 of 33 from 45+ before | +29% CAR | – |
| 8 | Q4 0:03 | E. Pineiro made 42-yard field goalKicks · 87% expected for him | +15% CAR | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Ryan Ramczyk (NO T), out · 1.6 pts
- Paulson Adebo (NO CB), out · 0.8 pts
- Jarvis Landry (NO WR), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Andrus Peat (NO G), out · 0.4 pts
- Marcus Maye (NO FS), out · 0.4 pts
- Cesar Ruiz (NO G), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Brian Burns (CAR DE), out · 1.1 pts
- Jaycee Horn (CAR CB), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 1% · Saints 99%
- Final margin
- Panthers by 3
- Luck in points
- 18.7 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Saints by 15.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 10% · Saints 90% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 18 2022 games ·
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