Week 7 2024 · October 20, 2024
Bengals at Browns, Week 7 2024: who deserved to win?
The Bengals beat the Browns 21–14, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Bengals win 10 of 10. The Browns had the bounces: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 3.8 points to the Browns.
An off day for the Browns: their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Bengals they would win 35% of the time; with this day’s form, 2%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Bengals were 66% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 15:00 left): Return touchdown by the Bengals, worth 24 points of win probability to the Bengals.
Final
| 21 | |
| 14 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +2 Bengals about even · −2 Browns
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Bengals win 10, Browns win 0.
- 1 CIN 44 CLE 6
- 2 CIN 37 CLE 6
- 3 CIN 37 CLE 10
- 4 CIN 37 CLE 14
- 5 CIN 26 CLE 6
- 6 CIN 21 CLE 3
- 7 CIN 20 CLE 6
- 8 CIN 20 CLE 9
- 9 CIN 35 CLE 28
- 10 CIN 20 CLE 17
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Browns
Their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Bengals they would win 35% of the time; with this day’s form, 2%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
33 points apart for the Browns: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bengals offenseEPA per play gained | −0.15 | +0.13 | worse by 0.28 |
| Bengals defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.14 | +0.14 | better by 0.29 |
| Browns offenseEPA per play gained | −0.14 | −0.01 | worse by 0.13 |
| Browns defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.15 | +0.04 | better by 0.18 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Bengals win 98% of them, Browns 2%. The line is what actually happened: Bengals by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Bengals by 17+ | 77.5% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 14.6% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 5.6% |
| Level after regulation | 0.3% |
| Browns by 1–8 | 1.5% |
| Browns by 9–16 | 0.5% |
| Browns by 17+ | 0.1% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Bengals by 7. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Bengals by 8.6.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- D. Hopkins, 49 yds missed · 73% expected
- E. McPherson, 50 yds missed · 74% expected
- Extra point missed · 93% expected
When it happened
Browns’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 60%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 15:00 | Return touchdown by the BengalsSpecial teams | +24% CIN | CIN: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 6:32 | D. Hopkins missed 49-yard field goalKicks · 73% expected for him, 36 of 50 from 45+ before | +10% CIN | CLE: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 3:47 | The Bengals were stopped on 4th & 33rd & 4th downs · 50% expected | +9% CLE | CIN: Punt |
| 4 | Q2 1:22 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Bengals (DJ Turner), 22 yardsJudgment calls · 5 flags in 1177 snaps before, position avg 1 per 215 | +10% CLE | CLE: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 0:59 | The Browns converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 61% expected | +16% CLE | CLE: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 0:56 | The Browns missed an extra pointKicks · extra points are made about 94% of the timeRoughing the Passer on the Browns (Ogbonnia Okoronkwo), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 8 flags in 2212 snaps before, position avg 1 per 297 | +9% CIN | CLE: End of half |
| 7 | Q3 12:46 | Illegal Shift on the Browns, 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags | +7% CIN | CIN: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 10:53 | The Browns were stopped on 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 55% expected | +12% CIN | CLE: Turnover |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- James Hudson (CLE T), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Wyatt Teller (CLE G), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- David Bell (CLE WR), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Jerome Ford (CLE RB), out · 0.2 pts
- Charley Hughlett (CLE LS), out (IR) · 0.1 pts
- Trent Brown (CIN T), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Daxton Hill (CIN CB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Trenton Irwin (CIN WR), out · 0.4 pts
- Daxton Hill (CIN FS), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Bengals 89% · Browns 11%
- Final margin
- Bengals by 7
- Luck in points
- 1.6 for the Browns
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bengals by 8.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Bengals 98% · Browns 2% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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