Week 7 2024 · October 17, 2024
Broncos at Saints, Week 7 2024: who deserved to win?
The Broncos beat the Saints 33–10, and the replays lean their way: with the same day's form, they win 7 of 10.
Before kickoff the Broncos were 57% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 13:19 left): Defensive Offside on the Broncos (D.J. Jones), 5 yards, wiping out the play, worth 9 points of win probability to the Saints.
Final
| 33 | |
| 10 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +31 Broncos lucky · −31 Saints
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Broncos win 7, Saints win 3.
- 1 DEN 37 NO 13
- 2 DEN 26 NO 7
- 3 DEN 30 NO 16
- 4 DEN 18 NO 7
- 5 DEN 18 NO 10
- 6 DEN 19 NO 14
- 7 DEN 15 NO 13
- 8 DEN 10 NO 13
- 9 DEN 23 NO 31
- 10 DEN 6 NO 24
Your call
Did the Broncos earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Broncos win 69% of them, Saints 31%, counting the 4% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Broncos by 23.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Broncos by 17+ | 20.5% |
| Broncos by 9–16 | 21.7% |
| Broncos by 1–8 | 26.0% |
| Level after regulation | 4.3% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 15.4% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 8.3% |
| Saints by 17+ | 3.9% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- W. Lutz, 46 yds made · 78% expected
- W. Lutz, 32 yds made · 95% expected
- B. Grupe, 35 yds made · 94% expected
- W. Lutz, 52 yds made · 68% expected
- W. Lutz, 38 yds made · 91% expected
Penalties: Broncos 7 for 47 yards, Saints 5 for 35 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 0:16 | Defensive Holding on the Saints (Paulson Adebo), 5 yards | 0% DEN +0.3 pts |
| Q2 13:27 | Delay of Game on the Broncos, 5 yards · pre-snap | +4% NO +1.0 pts |
| Q2 13:19 | Defensive Offside on the Broncos (D.J. Jones), 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +9% NO +2.6 pts |
| Q2 13:10 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Broncos (Baron Browning), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% DEN 0.0 pts |
| Q3 3:56 | Offensive Holding on the Saints (Foster Moreau), 10 yards | 0% DEN +1.0 pts |
| Q3 3:30 | False Start on the Saints, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% DEN +0.2 pts |
| Q3 2:55 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Saints, 10 yards, wiping out the play | 0% DEN +1.6 pts |
| Q3 1:03 | Illegal Formation on the Saints (J.T. Gray), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% DEN +0.3 pts |
| Q3 0:56 | Offensive Holding on the Broncos (Javonte Williams), 10 yards, wiping out the play | 0% NO +1.9 pts |
| Q4 10:34 | Offensive Holding on the Broncos (Nate Adkins), 7 yards, wiping out the play | 0% NO +2.8 pts |
| Q4 6:42 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Broncos, 5 yards, wiping out the play | 0% NO +1.8 pts |
| Q4 2:00 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Broncos, 10 yards | 0% NO +1.3 pts |
Broncos penalties, every game · Saints penalties, every game · All teams, 2024
When it happened
Saints’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 64%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 11:28 | The Saints got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · defenses catch 56% of interception-worthy throws | +6% NO | NO: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 3:46 | The Saints fumbled and the Broncos recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +7% DEN | NO: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 2:19 | The Broncos converted 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +3% DEN | DEN: Field goal |
| 4 | Q2 13:19 | Defensive Offside on the Broncos (D.J. Jones), 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags · 4 flags in 3060 snaps before, position avg 1 per 528 | +9% NO | NO: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 12:27 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 38% expected | +3% DEN | NO: Punt |
| 6 | Q2 0:55 | The Broncos got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · defenses catch 56% of interception-worthy throws | +5% DEN | DEN: Field goal |
| 7 | Q2 0:49 | The Broncos converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +3% DEN | DEN: Field goal |
| 8 | Q2 0:21 | W. Lutz made a 52-yard field goalKicks · 68% expected for him, 31 of 46 from 45+ before | +5% DEN | DEN: Field goal |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Derek Carr (NO QB), out, replaced by s.rattler · 5.3 pts
- Chris Olave (NO WR), out · 0.8 pts
- Rashid Shaheed (NO WR), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Erik McCoy (NO C), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Cesar Ruiz (NO C), out · 0.5 pts
- Cesar Ruiz (NO G), out · 0.4 pts
- Will Harris (NO FS), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Pete Werner (NO LB), out · 0.3 pts
- Lucas Patrick (NO G), out · 0.3 pts
- Alex Palczewski (DEN T), out · 0.3 pts
- Alex Singleton (DEN LB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Josh Reynolds (DEN WR), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Luke Wattenberg (DEN C), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Broncos 100% · Saints 0%
- Final margin
- Broncos by 23
- Luck in points
- 9.4 for the Broncos
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Broncos by 13.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Broncos 69% · Saints 31% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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