Week 13 2025 · November 27, 2025
Packers at Lions, Week 13 2025: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Lions 31–24, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Packers win 5 of 10. Luck ran their way: drops alone were worth 3.0 points to the Packers.
Before kickoff the Lions were 57% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 10:55 left): the Lions were stopped on 4th & 3, worth 15 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
| 31 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +45 Packers lucky · −45 Lions
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Packers win 5, Lions win 5.
- 1 GB 38 DET 16
- 2 GB 23 DET 9
- 3 GB 26 DET 17
- 4 GB 20 DET 14
- 5 GB 16 DET 13
- 6 GB 14 DET 17
- 7 GB 34 DET 38
- 8 GB 10 DET 17
- 9 GB 21 DET 33
- 10 GB 10 DET 30
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Packers win 55% of them, Lions 45%, counting the 7% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 7.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Packers by 17+ | 10.4% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 14.4% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 24.2% |
| Level after regulation | 7.1% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 23.1% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 12.6% |
| Lions by 17+ | 8.3% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Packers by 7. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Packers by 2.6.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- B. McManus, 45 yds made · 83% expected
- J. Bates, 31 yds made · 97% expected
When it happened
Lions’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 58%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 2:33 | The Packers converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 61% expected | +9% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 14:25 | The Packers converted 4th & 33rd & 4th downs · 52% expected | +15% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 10:28 | The Lions converted 3rd & 133rd & 4th downs · 23% expected | +8% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 2:16 | The Packers converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 67% expected | +9% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q2 0:31 | The Lions converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 52% expected | +11% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 3:23 | The Packers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +9% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 10:55 | The Lions were stopped on 4th & 33rd & 4th downs · 52% expectedJ. Williams dropped a catchable passDrops · 16 drops on 153 catchable balls before this | +15% GB | DET: Field goal |
| 8 | Q4 3:26 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 38% expected | +9% GB | DET: Field goal |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Sam LaPorta (DET TE), out (IR) · 1.1 pts
- Kerby Joseph (DET S), out · 0.7 pts
- Graham Glasgow (DET OL), out · 0.5 pts
- Brock Wright (DET TE), out · 0.3 pts
- Christian Mahogany (DET OL), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Giovanni Manu (DET OL), out (IR) · 0.1 pts
- Tucker Kraft (GB TE), out (IR) · 1.1 pts
- Elgton Jenkins (GB C), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Nate Hobbs (GB CB), out · 0.4 pts
- Quay Walker (GB LB), out · 0.4 pts
- Matthew Golden (GB WR), out · 0.3 pts
- Karl Brooks (GB DL), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Packers 68% · Lions 32%
- Final margin
- Packers by 7
- Luck in points
- 4.4 for the Packers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Packers by 2.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Packers 55% · Lions 45% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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