Week 13 2025 · November 30, 2025
Saints at Dolphins, Week 13 2025: who deserved to win?
The Dolphins beat the Saints 21–17 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 7 of 10. The Saints had the bounces: drops alone were worth 2.7 points to the Saints.
Before kickoff the Dolphins were 66% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 0:44 left): C. Olave dropped a catchable pass, worth 40 points of win probability to the Dolphins.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +30 Dolphins lucky · −30 Saints
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Saints win 3, Dolphins win 7.
- 1 NO 21 MIA 6
- 2 NO 13 MIA 3
- 3 NO 24 MIA 21
- 4 NO 20 MIA 23
- 5 NO 13 MIA 20
- 6 NO 13 MIA 22
- 7 NO 3 MIA 15
- 8 NO 12 MIA 27
- 9 NO 20 MIA 39
- 10 NO 13 MIA 38
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Saints win 30% of them, Dolphins 70%, counting the 4% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Dolphins by 4.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Saints by 17+ | 3.9% |
| Saints by 9–16 | 8.6% |
| Saints by 1–8 | 15.2% |
| Level after regulation | 3.5% |
| Dolphins by 1–8 | 23.2% |
| Dolphins by 9–16 | 21.2% |
| Dolphins by 17+ | 24.3% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Dolphins by 4. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Saints by 0.1.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- R. Patterson, 39 yds made · 87% expected
- R. Patterson, 25 yds made · 98% expected
- R. Patterson, 48 yds made · 74% expected
- R. Patterson, 33 yds made · 94% expected
- C. Smyth, 56 yds made · 59% expected
When it happened
Dolphins’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:16 | The Dolphins converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 40% expectedThe Dolphins fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +16% MIA | MIA: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q3 9:10 | The Dolphins were stopped on 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expectedJ. Hill dropped a catchable passDrops · 2 drops on 33 catchable balls before this | +6% NO | MIA: Punt |
| 3 | Q4 14:20 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 57% expected | +6% MIA | NO: Punt |
| 4 | Q4 2:00 | The Saints converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +5% NO | NO: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q4 1:17 | The Saints’ two-point try failed3rd & 4th downs · 47% expectedThe Saints got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · 48% expected to stay out of the defense's handsFalse Start on the Saints, 5 yardsPre-snap flagsOnside kick recovered by the SaintsSpecial teams | +19% NO | NO: Turnover on downs |
| 6 | Q4 0:44 | C. Olave dropped a catchable passDrops · 10 drops on 296 catchable balls before this | +40% MIA | NO: Turnover on downs |
| 7 | Q4 0:39 | The Saints were stopped on 3rd & 13rd & 4th downs · 70% expected | +8% MIA | NO: Turnover on downs |
| 8 | Q4 0:35 | The Saints were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 70% expected | +21% MIA | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Erik McCoy (NO C), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Alvin Kamara (NO RB), out · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Saints 34% · Dolphins 66%
- Final margin
- Dolphins by 4
- Luck in points
- 4.1 for the Dolphins
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Saints by 0.1
- Replay with same day's form
- Saints 30% · Dolphins 70% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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