Week 9 2025 · November 2, 2025
Vikings at Lions, Week 9 2025: who deserved to win?
The Vikings beat the Lions 27–24 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 8 of 10. The Lions had the bounces: drops alone were worth 2.5 points to the Lions.
An off day for the Lions: their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Vikings they would win 74% of the time; with this day’s form, 24%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Lions were 76% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 1:54 left): Illegal Contact on the Lions (Amik Robertson), 5 yards, wiping out the play, worth 20 points of win probability to the Vikings.
Final
| 27 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +24 Vikings about even · −24 Lions
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Vikings win 8, Lions win 2.
- 1 MIN 37 DET 7
- 2 MIN 26 DET 5
- 3 MIN 34 DET 17
- 4 MIN 33 DET 20
- 5 MIN 17 DET 7
- 6 MIN 26 DET 19
- 7 MIN 23 DET 19
- 8 MIN 24 DET 22
- 9 MIN 6 DET 10
- 10 MIN 9 DET 23
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Lions
Their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Vikings they would win 74% of the time; with this day’s form, 24%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
49 points apart for the Lions: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Vikings offenseEPA per play gained | +0.09 | +0.09 | better by 0.01 |
| Vikings defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.03 | +0.08 | better by 0.05 |
| Lions offenseEPA per play gained | +0.03 | +0.19 | worse by 0.17 |
| Lions defenseEPA per play allowed | +0.09 | +0.08 | worse by 0.01 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Vikings win 76% of them, Lions 24%, counting the 4% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Vikings by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Vikings by 17+ | 25.2% |
| Vikings by 9–16 | 22.9% |
| Vikings by 1–8 | 24.3% |
| Level after regulation | 3.5% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 14.2% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 7.0% |
| Lions by 17+ | 2.9% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Vikings by 3. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Lions by 8.8.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- W. Reichard, 50 yds made · 75% expected
- J. Bates, 41 yds made · 88% expected
- J. Bates, 45 yds blocked · 83% expected
- W. Reichard, 20 yds made · 100% expected
When it happened
Lions’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 70%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:51 | The Lions converted 4th & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +16% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 9:43 | The Lions converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 65% expected | +14% DET | DET: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 1:54 | Illegal Contact on the Lions (Amik Robertson), 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 10 flags in 2683 snaps before, position avg 1 per 213 | +20% MIN | MIN: Turnover |
| 4 | Q2 0:51 | The Vikings were stopped on 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 25% expectedThe Vikings were intercepted on a well-placed throwInterceptions · 0% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +19% DET | MIN: End of half |
| 5 | Q3 2:07 | The Lions converted 3rd & 143rd & 4th downs · 21% expected | +11% DET | DET: Field goal |
| 6 | Q4 10:37 | The Lions converted 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 58% expected | +16% DET | DET: Missed field goal |
| 7 | Q4 7:09 | The Lions were stopped on 3rd & 143rd & 4th downs · 21% expectedFalse Start on the Lions, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +12% MIN | DET: Missed field goal |
| 8 | Q4 6:29 | J. Bates had a 45-yard field goal blockedKicks · 83% expected for him, 13 of 19 from 45+ before | +12% MIN | DET: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Kerby Joseph (DET S), out · 0.8 pts
- D.J. Reed (DET CB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Marcus Davenport (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Carson Wentz (MIN QB), out (IR), replaced by j.mccarthy · 2.6 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Vikings 12% · Lions 88%
- Final margin
- Vikings by 3
- Luck in points
- 11.8 for the Vikings
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Lions by 8.8
- Replay with same day's form
- Vikings 76% · Lions 24% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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