Week 4 2020 · October 4, 2020
No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Giants at Rams, Week 4 2020: who deserved to win?
The Rams beat the Giants 17–9 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 7 of 10. The Giants had the bounces: fumble bounces alone were worth 3.1 points to the Giants.
Before kickoff the Rams were 84% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 7:06 left): the Rams converted 3rd & 3, worth 14 points of win probability to the Rams.
Final
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Replay with same day's form
Luck index +32 Rams lucky · −32 Giants
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Giants win 3, Rams win 7.
- 1 NYG 25 LA 9
- 2 NYG 13 LA 6
- 3 NYG 23 LA 20
- 4 NYG 7 LA 9
- 5 NYG 10 LA 13
- 6 NYG 14 LA 20
- 7 NYG 10 LA 19
- 8 NYG 10 LA 23
- 9 NYG 0 LA 16
- 10 NYG 10 LA 31
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Giants win 32% of them, Rams 68%, counting the 4% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Rams by 8.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Giants by 17+ | 3.6% |
| Giants by 9–16 | 8.3% |
| Giants by 1–8 | 16.0% |
| Level after regulation | 4.3% |
| Rams by 1–8 | 26.7% |
| Rams by 9–16 | 21.5% |
| Rams by 17+ | 19.6% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Rams by 8. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Rams by 10.0.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- G. Gano, 35 yds made · 94% expected
- S. Sloman, 32 yds made · 95% expected
- G. Gano, 37 yds made · 92% expected
- G. Gano, 27 yds made · 98% expected
When it happened
Rams’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q2 14:11 | The Rams were stopped on 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 36% expected | +5% NYG | LA: Punt |
| 2 | Q2 8:08 | The Rams converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +6% LA | LA: Field goal |
| 3 | Q3 10:10 | The Giants converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 51% expected | +7% NYG | NYG: Punt |
| 4 | Q3 4:18 | The Giants converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 73% expected | +11% NYG | NYG: Field goal |
| 5 | Q4 14:20 | The Giants were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +8% LA | NYG: Field goal |
| 6 | Q4 14:15 | G. Gano made 27-yard field goalKicks · 98% expected for him | +8% LA | NYG: Punt |
| 7 | Q4 10:32 | The Giants were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 51% expected | +8% LA | NYG: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 7:06 | The Rams converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 51% expected | +14% LA | LA: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Jordan Fuller (LA S), out · 0.4 pts
- Saquon Barkley (NYG RB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Sterling Shepard (NYG WR), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Jabrill Peppers (NYG S), out · 0.3 pts
- David Mayo (NYG LB), out (IR) · 0.1 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Giants 0% · Rams 100%
- Final margin
- Rams by 8
- Luck in points
- 2.0 for the Giants
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Rams by 10.0
- Replay with same day's form
- Giants 32% · Rams 68% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting (not available for this game); injuries from snap counts and injury reports. No FTN charting for this game (drops and interception-worthy throws are not modelled).
Methodology and validation · All Week 4 2020 games ·
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