Week 11 2022 · November 20, 2022
Lions at Giants, Week 11 2022: who deserved to win?
The Lions beat the Giants 31–18, but the replays lean toward the Giants: they take 6 of 10 with the same day's form.
Before kickoff the Giants were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 11:37 left): Roughing the Passer on the Giants (Oshane Ximines), 15 yards, worth 9 points of win probability to the Lions.
Final
| 31 | |
| 18 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +63 Lions very lucky · −63 Giants
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Lions win 4, Giants win 6.
- 1 DET 30 NYG 10
- 2 DET 25 NYG 14
- 3 DET 27 NYG 21
- 4 DET 16 NYG 13
- 5 DET 24 NYG 27
- 6 DET 17 NYG 23
- 7 DET 20 NYG 30
- 8 DET 20 NYG 35
- 9 DET 16 NYG 35
- 10 DET 6 NYG 30
Your call
Did the Lions earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Lions win 37% of them, Giants 63%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Lions by 13.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Lions by 17+ | 5.8% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 9.6% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 19.2% |
| Level after regulation | 2.5% |
| Giants by 1–8 | 26.8% |
| Giants by 9–16 | 19.1% |
| Giants by 17+ | 17.0% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- M. Badgley, 24 yds made · 95% expected
- Extra point missed · 94% expected
- Extra point missed · 94% expected
Penalties: Lions 5 for 45 yards, Giants 8 for 63 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 11:37 | Roughing the Passer on the Giants (Oshane Ximines), 15 yards | +9% DET +2.5 pts |
| Q2 15:00 | Offensive Holding on the Lions, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +8% NYG +2.6 pts |
| Q2 14:28 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Lions, 15 yards | +1% NYG +1.4 pts |
| Q2 12:44 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Giants, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +8% DET +2.4 pts |
| Q2 9:45 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Giants, 5 yards, wiping out the play | +6% DET +1.6 pts |
| Q2 5:26 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Giants, 2 yards | +1% DET +0.3 pts |
| Q2 4:38 | Illegal Block Above the Waist on the Giants, 6 yards | +2% DET +0.5 pts |
| Q2 1:27 | Illegal Block Above the Waist on the Lions, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +4% NYG +1.8 pts |
| Q2 0:54 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Giants (Cam Brown), 15 yards | +3% DET +0.9 pts |
| Q2 0:06 | Delay of Game on the Giants, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% DET +0.2 pts |
| Q4 8:52 | Delay of Game on the Lions, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% NYG +0.8 pts |
| Q4 8:31 | False Start on the Giants, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% DET +0.8 pts |
| Q4 5:46 | Defensive Holding on the Lions (Amani Oruwariye), 5 yards | 0% NYG +0.8 pts |
Lions penalties, every game · Giants penalties, every game · All teams, 2022
When it happened
Giants’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 69%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 11:37 | Roughing the Passer on the Giants (Oshane Ximines), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 3 flags in 1471 snaps before, position avg 1 per 422 | +9% DET | DET: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 5:54 | The Giants converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 76% expected | +7% NYG | NYG: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 4:21 | The Giants converted 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +8% NYG | NYG: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 1:19 | The Lions converted 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 24% expected | +8% DET | DET: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 15:00 | Offensive Holding on the Lions, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +8% NYG | NYG: Punt |
| 6 | Q2 12:44 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Giants, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +8% DET | DET: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 9:45 | Ineligible Downfield Pass on the Giants, 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% DET | DET: Punt |
| 8 | Q2 6:19 | The Giants threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · defenses catch 40% of interception-worthy throws | +8% DET | NYG: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Xavier McKinney (NYG FS), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Evan Neal (NYG T), out · 0.7 pts
- Sterling Shepard (NYG WR), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Daniel Bellinger (NYG TE), out · 0.4 pts
- Ben Bredeson (NYG C), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Ben Bredeson (NYG G), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Josh Reynolds (DET WR), out · 0.5 pts
- Josh Paschal (DET DT), out · 0.3 pts
- Tracy Walker (DET FS), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Charles Harris (DET LB), out · 0.1 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Lions 81% · Giants 19%
- Final margin
- Lions by 13
- Luck in points
- 9.7 for the Lions
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Lions by 3.3
- Replay with same day's form
- Lions 37% · Giants 63% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 11 2022 games ·
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