Week 3 2022 · September 25, 2022
Packers at Buccaneers, Week 3 2022: who deserved to win?
The Packers beat the Buccaneers 14–12, but the replays lean toward the Buccaneers: they take 6 of 10 with the same day's form. Luck ran their way: 3rd & 4th downs alone were worth 10 points of win probability to the Packers.
Before kickoff it was a pick’em. The biggest swing (Q4, 0:14 left): the Buccaneers’ two-point try failed, worth 20 points of win probability to the Packers.
Final
| 14 | |
| 12 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +62 Packers very lucky · −62 Buccaneers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Packers win 4, Buccaneers win 6.
- 1 GB 36 TB 14
- 2 GB 29 TB 17
- 3 GB 34 TB 27
- 4 GB 16 TB 13
- 5 GB 21 TB 24
- 6 GB 17 TB 23
- 7 GB 16 TB 25
- 8 GB 17 TB 30
- 9 GB 3 TB 20
- 10 GB 10 TB 34
Your call
Did the Packers earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Packers win 38% of them, Buccaneers 62%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Packers by 2.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Packers by 17+ | 7.1% |
| Packers by 9–16 | 11.7% |
| Packers by 1–8 | 18.0% |
| Level after regulation | 2.1% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 24.1% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 19.1% |
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 17.9% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- R. Succop, 45 yds made · 77% expected
- R. Succop, 45 yds made · 77% expected
Penalties: Packers 8 for 65 yards, Buccaneers 6 for 40 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 2:56 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +4% GB +1.6 pts |
| Q2 8:11 | False Start on the Buccaneers (Scott Miller), 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% GB +0.5 pts |
| Q2 7:15 | False Start on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% GB +0.7 pts |
| Q2 2:02 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Packers (Rasul Douglas), 5 yards | 0% TB 0.0 pts |
| Q3 15:00 | Illegal Block Above the Waist on the Packers (Allen Lazard), 10 yards | +1% TB +0.8 pts |
| Q3 11:35 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Packers (Darnell Savage Jr.), 13 yards | +2% TB +0.9 pts |
| Q3 9:50 | Running Into the Kicker on the Packers, 5 yards, wiping out the play | +6% GB +2.1 pts |
| Q3 9:38 | Illegal Block Above the Waist on the Packers (Rudy Ford), 10 yards | +2% TB +0.7 pts |
| Q3 1:08 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +11% GB +3.2 pts |
| Q4 13:24 | Delay of Game on the Packers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% TB +0.6 pts |
| Q4 11:18 | Offensive Holding on the Packers (Allen Lazard), 10 yards | +1% TB +0.8 pts |
| Q4 10:31 | Defensive Too Many Men on Field on the Buccaneers, 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +15% GB +4.0 pts |
| Q4 0:30 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Packers (Adrian Amos), 7 yards | +3% TB +1.6 pts |
| Q4 0:14 | Delay of Game on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% GB 0.0 pts |
Packers penalties, every game · Buccaneers penalties, every game · All teams, 2022
When it happened
Buccaneers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 65%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:36 | The Buccaneers converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +8% TB | TB: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 9:54 | The Buccaneers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 40% expected | +5% GB | TB: Field goal |
| 3 | Q1 7:24 | The Packers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 14:12 | The Packers converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 33% expected | +6% GB | GB: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 9:50 | Running Into the Kicker on the Packers, 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% GB | TB: Punt |
| 6 | Q3 1:08 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +11% GB | GB: Punt |
| 7 | Q4 10:31 | Defensive Too Many Men on Field on the Buccaneers, 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags | +15% GB | GB: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 0:14 | The Buccaneers’ two-point try failed3rd & 4th downs · 47% expectedDelay of Game on the Buccaneers, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +20% GB | TB: End of game |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Donovan Smith (TB T), out · 1.2 pts
- Mike Evans (TB WR), out (IR) · 0.9 pts
- Ryan Jensen (TB C), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Sammy Watkins (GB WR), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Krys Barnes (GB LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Packers 34% · Buccaneers 66%
- Final margin
- Packers by 2
- Luck in points
- 6.4 for the Packers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Buccaneers by 4.4
- Replay with same day's form
- Packers 38% · Buccaneers 62% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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