Week 8 2022 · October 30, 2022
Patriots at Jets, Week 8 2022: who deserved to win?
The Patriots beat the Jets 22–17, but it was a coin flip: replayed with the way both teams played, the Patriots win 5 of 10. Luck ran their way: kicks alone were worth 7.8 points to the Patriots.
Before kickoff the Patriots were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 0:48 left): the Jets were stopped on 3rd & 2, worth 18 points of win probability to the Patriots.
Final
| 22 | |
| 17 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +55 Patriots lucky · −55 Jets
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Patriots win 5, Jets win 5.
- 1 NE 37 NYJ 13
- 2 NE 36 NYJ 20
- 3 NE 32 NYJ 20
- 4 NE 21 NYJ 15
- 5 NE 23 NYJ 21
- 6 NE 13 NYJ 16
- 7 NE 24 NYJ 30
- 8 NE 9 NYJ 20
- 9 NE 6 NYJ 21
- 10 NE 23 NYJ 47
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Patriots win 45% of them, Jets 55%, counting the 5% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Patriots by 5.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Patriots by 17+ | 10.5% |
| Patriots by 9–16 | 15.3% |
| Patriots by 1–8 | 19.1% |
| Level after regulation | 5.1% |
| Jets by 1–8 | 20.1% |
| Jets by 9–16 | 15.8% |
| Jets by 17+ | 14.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Patriots by 5. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Jets by 5.7.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- G. Zuerlein, 28 yds made · 96% expected
- N. Folk, 31 yds made · 96% expected
- N. Folk, 42 yds made · 85% expected
- G. Zuerlein, 45 yds missed · 79% expected
- N. Folk, 49 yds made · 72% expected
- N. Folk, 45 yds made · 79% expected
- N. Folk, 52 yds made · 67% expected
When it happened
Jets’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 81%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 10:03 | The Jets converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 38% expected | +14% NYJ | NYJ: Field goal |
| 2 | Q1 6:19 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +9% NE | NE: Field goal |
| 3 | Q1 5:23 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +10% NE | NE: Field goal |
| 4 | Q2 2:00 | The Patriots were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 74% expected | +10% NYJ | NE: Field goal |
| 5 | Q2 0:48 | The Jets were stopped on 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 58% expectedThe Jets threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 48% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +18% NE | NYJ: Missed field goal |
| 6 | Q2 0:37 | Roughing the Passer on the Jets (John Franklin-Myers), 13 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 6 flags in 1530 snaps before, position avg 1 per 277 | +14% NE | NE: Field goal |
| 7 | Q3 6:07 | The Patriots were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 45% expected | +9% NYJ | NE: Field goal |
| 8 | Q4 12:13 | The Jets were stopped on 3rd & 73rd & 4th downs · 32% expectedThe Jets threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 49% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +12% NE | NYJ: Turnover on downs |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Joe Flacco (NYJ QB), out, replaced by z.wilson · 1.1 pts
- Corey Davis (NYJ WR), out · 0.8 pts
- George Fant (NYJ T), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Max Mitchell (NYJ T), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Breece Hall (NYJ RB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Bryce Hall (NYJ CB), out · 0.2 pts
- Alijah Vera-Tucker (NYJ G), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- David Andrews (NE C), out · 0.4 pts
- Kyle Dugger (NE FS), out · 0.3 pts
- Christian Barmore (NE DT), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Patriots 37% · Jets 63%
- Final margin
- Patriots by 5
- Luck in points
- 10.7 for the Patriots
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Jets by 5.7
- Replay with same day's form
- Patriots 45% · Jets 55% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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