Week 10 2023 · November 9, 2023
Panthers at Bears, Week 10 2023: who deserved to win?
The Bears beat the Panthers 16–13, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Bears win 9 of 10. The Panthers had the bounces: fumble bounces alone were worth 1.6 points to the Panthers.
An off day for the Panthers: their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Bears they would win 39% of the time; with this day’s form, 6%. The numbers
Before kickoff the Bears were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 1:40 left): E. Pineiro missed 59-yard field goal, worth 30 points of win probability to the Bears.
Final
| 13 | |
| 16 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +6 Bears about even · −6 Panthers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Panthers win 1, Bears win 9.
- 1 CAR 13 CHI 7
- 2 CAR 7 CHI 9
- 3 CAR 13 CHI 18
- 4 CAR 5 CHI 13
- 5 CAR 10 CHI 20
- 6 CAR 6 CHI 19
- 7 CAR 7 CHI 22
- 8 CAR 6 CHI 24
- 9 CAR 3 CHI 24
- 10 CAR 6 CHI 34
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
An off day for the Panthers
Their offense played far below its usual level. In a fresh game against the Bears they would win 39% of the time; with this day’s form, 6%.
Same teams, fresh game
Replay with same day's form
33 points apart for the Panthers: the gap is how differently this game went from what the two teams usually are.
| Unit | This game | Usual level | Better or worse than usual |
|---|---|---|---|
| Panthers offenseEPA per play gained | −0.14 | +0.03 | worse by 0.16 |
| Panthers defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.04 | +0.10 | better by 0.13 |
| Bears offenseEPA per play gained | −0.04 | +0.10 | worse by 0.14 |
| Bears defenseEPA per play allowed | −0.14 | +0.17 | better by 0.31 |
EPA (expected points added) per play on competitive snaps, turnovers left out because they are valued as luck. Usual level: the team’s earlier games this season plus half of last season, pulled toward the league average. One team’s defense and the other team’s offense are the same snaps, so one game can’t fully say whose day it was; it shows how far this one was from both teams’ norms.
How 4,000 replays ended
Panthers win 6% of them, Bears 94%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Bears by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Panthers by 17+ | 0.0% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 0.9% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 4.0% |
| Level after regulation | 1.3% |
| Bears by 1–8 | 16.7% |
| Bears by 9–16 | 25.0% |
| Bears by 17+ | 52.1% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Bears by 3. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Bears by 0.6.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- C. Santos, 54 yds made · 64% expected
- E. Pineiro, 33 yds made · 95% expected
- C. Santos, 36 yds made · 92% expected
- C. Santos, 39 yds made · 88% expected
- E. Pineiro, 39 yds made · 89% expected
- E. Pineiro, 59 yds missed · 60% expected
When it happened
Bears’ chance of winning
As low as 26% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 6:05 | Return touchdown by the PanthersSpecial teams | +14% CAR | CAR: Opp touchdown |
| 2 | Q2 5:18 | The Bears converted 4th & 43rd & 4th downs · 45% expected | +11% CHI | CHI: Field goal |
| 3 | Q2 0:20 | The Bears converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +8% CHI | CHI: Field goal |
| 4 | Q3 1:58 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Bears (D.J. Moore), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 9 flags in 4293 snaps before, position avg 1 per 420 | +8% CAR | CAR: Field goal |
| 5 | Q4 13:06 | The Panthers converted 4th & 63rd & 4th downs · 34% expected | +14% CAR | CAR: Field goal |
| 6 | Q4 11:14 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +8% CHI | CAR: Field goal |
| 7 | Q4 2:00 | The Panthers converted 4th & 23rd & 4th downs · 58% expected | +19% CAR | CAR: Missed field goal |
| 8 | Q4 1:40 | E. Pineiro missed 59-yard field goalKicks · 60% expected for him, 21 of 24 from 45+ before | +30% CHI | – |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Tremaine Edmunds (CHI LB), out · 0.6 pts
- Nate Davis (CHI G), out · 0.4 pts
- Terell Smith (CHI CB), out · 0.3 pts
- Khalil Herbert (CHI RB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Brian Burns (CAR LB), out · 0.5 pts
- Jeremy Chinn (CAR FS), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- C.J. Henderson (CAR CB), out · 0.4 pts
- Shaq Thompson (CAR LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Yetur Gross-Matos (CAR LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Panthers 45% · Bears 55%
- Final margin
- Bears by 3
- Luck in points
- 2.4 for the Bears
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bears by 0.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Panthers 6% · Bears 94% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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