Week 8 2023 · October 29, 2023
Bears at Chargers, Week 8 2023: who deserved to win?
The Chargers beat the Bears 30–13 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 6 of 10. The Bears had the bounces: fumble bounces alone were worth 3.1 points to the Bears.
Before kickoff the Chargers were 76% favorites.
Final
| 13 | |
| 30 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +37 Chargers lucky · −37 Bears
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Bears win 4, Chargers win 6.
- 1 CHI 37 LAC 14
- 2 CHI 16 LAC 3
- 3 CHI 23 LAC 16
- 4 CHI 16 LAC 13
- 5 CHI 28 LAC 30
- 6 CHI 16 LAC 21
- 7 CHI 16 LAC 24
- 8 CHI 7 LAC 20
- 9 CHI 17 LAC 34
- 10 CHI 13 LAC 39
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Bears win 37% of them, Chargers 63%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chargers by 17.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Bears by 17+ | 5.1% |
| Bears by 9–16 | 9.4% |
| Bears by 1–8 | 20.3% |
| Level after regulation | 2.3% |
| Chargers by 1–8 | 26.2% |
| Chargers by 9–16 | 19.5% |
| Chargers by 17+ | 17.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Chargers by 17. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Chargers by 7.8.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- C. Dicker, 43 yds made · 85% expected
- C. Dicker, 53 yds made · 70% expected
- C. Dicker, 46 yds made · 82% expected
When it happened
Chargers’ chance of winning
As low as 47% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:28 | The Bears were stopped on 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +8% LAC | CHI: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 11:32 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 42% expected | +4% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 6:32 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Bears, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +6% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q1 6:08 | K. Blasingame dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 4 catchable balls before this | +2% LAC | CHI: Punt |
| 5 | Q1 5:17 | Fair Catch Interference on the Bears (Velus Jones Jr.), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 0 flags in 399 snaps before, position avg 1 per 420 | +3% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 13:42 | The Bears fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +4% CHI | CHI: Turnover |
| 7 | Q2 12:50 | The Bears were stopped on 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expectedThe Bears threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 48% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +6% LAC | CHI: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q3 12:37 | Defensive Offside on the Bears (Andrew Billings), 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags · 5 flags in 1577 snaps before, position avg 1 per 316 | +3% LAC | LAC: Field goal |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Corey Linsley (LAC C), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Mike Williams (LAC WR), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Gerald Everett (LAC TE), out · 0.5 pts
- Braxton Jones (CHI T), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Nate Davis (CHI G), out · 0.4 pts
- Jaquan Brisker (CHI SS), out · 0.4 pts
- Terell Smith (CHI CB), out · 0.3 pts
- Khalil Herbert (CHI RB), out (IR) · 0.1 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Bears 12% · Chargers 88%
- Final margin
- Chargers by 17
- Luck in points
- 9.1 for the Chargers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Chargers by 7.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Bears 37% · Chargers 63% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2023 games ·
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