Week 8 2023 · October 26, 2023
Buccaneers at Bills, Week 8 2023: who deserved to win?
The Bills beat the Buccaneers 24–18, and the replays back it up: with the way both teams actually played, the Bills win 10 of 10. The Buccaneers had the bounces: fumble bounces alone were worth 8 points of win probability to the Buccaneers.
Before kickoff the Bills were 77% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 2:44 left): the Buccaneers got away with an interception-worthy throw, worth 16 points of win probability to the Buccaneers.
Final
| 18 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +1 Bills about even · −1 Buccaneers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Buccaneers win 0, Bills win 10.
- 1 TB 23 BUF 26
- 2 TB 14 BUF 23
- 3 TB 13 BUF 24
- 4 TB 10 BUF 24
- 5 TB 13 BUF 30
- 6 TB 17 BUF 38
- 7 TB 7 BUF 31
- 8 TB 14 BUF 43
- 9 TB 9 BUF 43
- 10 TB 6 BUF 47
Your call
Did the Bills earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Buccaneers win 1% of them, Bills 99%. The line is what actually happened: Bills by 6.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Buccaneers by 17+ | 0.0% |
| Buccaneers by 9–16 | 0.1% |
| Buccaneers by 1–8 | 0.3% |
| Level after regulation | 0.2% |
| Bills by 1–8 | 1.7% |
| Bills by 9–16 | 7.0% |
| Bills by 17+ | 90.8% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- T. Bass, 37 yds made · 90% expected
- C. McLaughlin, 50 yds blocked · 67% expected
- C. McLaughlin, 57 yds made · 58% expected
Penalties: Buccaneers 11 for 74 yards, Bills 9 for 86 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 13:31 | False Start on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% BUF +0.7 pts |
| Q1 5:57 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Bills (Taylor Rapp), 21 yards | +10% TB +2.6 pts |
| Q1 3:48 | Offensive Holding on the Bills (Trent Sherfield), 10 yards | +2% TB +0.7 pts |
| Q2 9:16 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers (Trey Palmer), 10 yards | +1% BUF +0.7 pts |
| Q2 8:49 | False Start on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% BUF +0.3 pts |
| Q2 0:47 | False Start on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% BUF +0.5 pts |
| Q2 0:19 | Delay of Game on the Buccaneers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% BUF +0.2 pts |
| Q3 13:34 | Defensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 5 yards | +2% BUF +0.9 pts |
| Q3 7:51 | Illegal Touch Kick on the Buccaneers (Josh Hayes), 5 yards | +1% BUF +0.4 pts |
| Q3 2:47 | Offensive Holding on the Bills (Siran Neal), 10 yards | +1% TB +0.7 pts |
| Q3 1:02 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the Buccaneers (Calijah Kancey), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% BUF +0.6 pts |
| Q4 14:12 | Delay of Game on the Bills, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% TB +0.5 pts |
| Q4 13:12 | Offensive Holding on the Bills, 10 yards | 0% TB +0.9 pts |
| Q4 10:14 | Delay of Game on the Bills, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% TB +0.7 pts |
| Q4 10:05 | False Start on the Buccaneers, 4 yards · pre-snap | 0% BUF +0.7 pts |
| Q4 9:16 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +7% BUF +4.8 pts |
| Q4 4:14 | Illegal Contact on the Bills (Taron Johnson), 5 yards | +2% TB +2.9 pts |
| Q4 3:11 | Face Mask on the Bills (Jordan Phillips), 15 yards, wiping out the play | +2% TB +2.5 pts |
| Q4 2:44 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Buccaneers, 15 yards | +4% TB +1.1 pts |
| Q4 0:04 | Defensive Offside on the Bills (Von Miller), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% TB 0.0 pts |
Buccaneers penalties, every game · Bills penalties, every game · All teams, 2023
When it happened
Bills’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:50 | C. Otton dropped a catchable passDrops · 6 drops on 72 catchable balls before this | +6% BUF | TB: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 5:57 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Bills (Taylor Rapp), 21 yardsJudgment calls · 5 flags in 3715 snaps before, position avg 1 per 462 | +10% TB | TB: Missed field goal |
| 3 | Q1 5:11 | The Buccaneers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% TB | TB: Missed field goal |
| 4 | Q1 4:26 | C. McLaughlin had a 50-yard field goal blockedKicks · 67% expected for him, 30 of 43 from 45+ before | +11% BUF | TB: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 15:00 | The Bills were stopped on 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 72% expected | +7% TB | BUF: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 2:46 | The Bills converted 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +6% BUF | BUF: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 9:16 | Offensive Holding on the Buccaneers, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +7% BUF | BUF: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 2:44 | The Buccaneers’ two-point try was good3rd & 4th downs · 47% expectedThe Buccaneers got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · defenses catch 49% of interception-worthy throwsUnnecessary Roughness on the Buccaneers, 15 yardsJudgment calls | +16% TB | TB: End of game |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Tre'Davious White (BUF CB), out (IR) · 1.1 pts
- Dawson Knox (BUF TE), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Matt Milano (BUF LB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Kaiir Elam (BUF CB), out · 0.4 pts
- DaQuan Jones (BUF DT), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Vita Vea (TB NT), out · 0.3 pts
- Matt Feiler (TB G), out · 0.3 pts
- Russell Gage (TB WR), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Buccaneers 15% · Bills 85%
- Final margin
- Bills by 6
- Luck in points
- 2.6 for the Buccaneers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bills by 8.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Buccaneers 1% · Bills 99% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2023 games ·
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