Week 8 2023 · October 29, 2023
Patriots at Dolphins, Week 8 2023: who deserved to win?
The Dolphins beat the Patriots 31–17, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Dolphins win 10 of 10. The Patriots had the bounces: drops alone were worth 2.3 points to the Patriots.
Before kickoff the Dolphins were 71% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 4:37 left): the Dolphins were stopped on 3rd & 15, worth 17 points of win probability to the Patriots.
Final
| 17 | |
| 31 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +4 Dolphins about even · −4 Patriots
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Patriots win 0, Dolphins win 10.
- 1 NE 17 MIA 20
- 2 NE 23 MIA 28
- 3 NE 15 MIA 23
- 4 NE 13 MIA 24
- 5 NE 23 MIA 37
- 6 NE 10 MIA 27
- 7 NE 3 MIA 23
- 8 NE 13 MIA 37
- 9 NE 7 MIA 34
- 10 NE 10 MIA 44
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Patriots win 4% of them, Dolphins 96%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Dolphins by 14.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Patriots by 17+ | 0.1% |
| Patriots by 9–16 | 0.8% |
| Patriots by 1–8 | 2.8% |
| Level after regulation | 0.5% |
| Dolphins by 1–8 | 8.6% |
| Dolphins by 9–16 | 17.7% |
| Dolphins by 17+ | 69.5% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Dolphins by 14. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Dolphins by 13.9.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Sanders, 30 yds made · 95% expected
- C. Ryland, 38 yds made · 86% expected
When it happened
Dolphins’ chance of winning
As low as 38% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:02 | The Dolphins converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 71% expected | +11% MIA | MIA: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 4:37 | The Dolphins were stopped on 3rd & 153rd & 4th downs · 19% expectedThe Dolphins threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 47% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +17% NE | MIA: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 3:39 | The Patriots converted 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 41% expected | +9% NE | NE: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q2 11:14 | The Dolphins converted 4th & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +12% MIA | MIA: Touchdown |
| 5 | Q3 15:00 | The Dolphins fumbled and the Patriots recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% NE | MIA: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q3 13:32 | The Patriots were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 37% expected | +6% MIA | NE: Field goal |
| 7 | Q3 10:52 | The Dolphins converted 3rd & 93rd & 4th downs · 27% expected | +5% MIA | MIA: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q4 8:33 | The Patriots converted 4th & 33rd & 4th downs · 39% expected | +7% NE | NE: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Xavien Howard (MIA CB), out · 1.3 pts
- Terron Armstead (MIA T), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Connor Williams (MIA C), out · 0.6 pts
- Jevon Holland (MIA SS), out · 0.5 pts
- Isaiah Wynn (MIA G), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Christian Gonzalez (NE CB), out (IR) · 1.0 pts
- Vederian Lowe (NE T), out · 0.4 pts
- Matt Judon (NE LB), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Patriots 1% · Dolphins 99%
- Final margin
- Dolphins by 14
- Luck in points
- 0.1 for the Dolphins
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Dolphins by 13.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Patriots 4% · Dolphins 96% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2023 games ·
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