Week 8 2023 · October 29, 2023
Bengals at 49ers, Week 8 2023: who deserved to win?
The Bengals beat the 49ers 31–17, a result the replays rarely give: with the way both teams actually played, the 49ers win 9 of 10. Luck ran their way: judgment calls alone were worth 9 points of win probability to the Bengals.
Before kickoff the 49ers were 62% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 0:13 left): the 49ers converted 3rd & 10, worth 11 points of win probability to the 49ers.
Final
| 31 | |
| 17 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +87 Bengals very lucky · −87 49ers
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Bengals win 1, 49ers win 9.
- 1 CIN 31 SF 24
- 2 CIN 37 SF 40
- 3 CIN 23 SF 30
- 4 CIN 34 SF 43
- 5 CIN 41 SF 52
- 6 CIN 2 SF 17
- 7 CIN 9 SF 27
- 8 CIN 10 SF 31
- 9 CIN 20 SF 47
- 10 CIN 16 SF 48
Your call
Did the Bengals earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Bengals win 13% of them, 49ers 87%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Bengals by 14.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Bengals by 17+ | 1.1% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 3.4% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 7.5% |
| Level after regulation | 1.9% |
| 49ers by 1–8 | 17.8% |
| 49ers by 9–16 | 19.9% |
| 49ers by 17+ | 48.4% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- E. McPherson, 50 yds missed · 71% expected
- J. Moody, 36 yds made · 91% expected
- E. McPherson, 56 yds made · 64% expected
Penalties: Bengals 1 for 15 yards, 49ers 5 for 54 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 11:00 | Neutral Zone Infraction on the 49ers (Nick Bosa), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% CIN +0.7 pts |
| Q2 12:18 | Lowering the Head to Make Forcible Contact on the 49ers (Isaiah Oliver), 15 yards | +5% CIN +1.8 pts |
| Q2 4:30 | Offensive Holding on the 49ers (Jauan Jennings), 10 yards, wiping out the play | +7% CIN +1.4 pts |
| Q3 14:56 | Defensive Pass Interference on the 49ers, 14 yards | +4% CIN +1.6 pts |
| Q3 11:09 | Offensive Holding on the 49ers, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +5% CIN +2.0 pts |
| Q4 1:59 | Roughing the Passer on the Bengals (D.J. Reader), 15 yards, wiping out the play | +1% SF +5.2 pts |
Bengals penalties, every game · 49ers penalties, every game · All teams, 2023
When it happened
49ers’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 58%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 12:49 | The Bengals fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% CIN | CIN: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 11:29 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +6% CIN | CIN: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q2 7:08 | E. McPherson missed a 50-yard field goalKicks · 71% expected for him, 29 of 37 from 45+ before | +6% SF | CIN: Turnover |
| 4 | Q2 4:30 | Offensive Holding on the 49ers (Jauan Jennings), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 6 flags in 1283 snaps before, position avg 1 per 420 | +7% CIN | CIN: Turnover |
| 5 | Q2 0:38 | The Bengals fumbled and the 49ers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +7% SF | CIN: Field goal |
| 6 | Q2 0:13 | The 49ers converted 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +11% SF | SF: Punt |
| 7 | Q3 9:19 | The 49ers got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · defenses catch 50% of interception-worthy throws | +8% SF | SF: Punt |
| 8 | Q3 0:12 | The 49ers threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · defenses catch 50% of interception-worthy throws | +6% CIN | SF: Turnover |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Deebo Samuel (SF WR), out · 1.2 pts
- Trent Williams (SF T), out · 1.1 pts
- Jackson Carman (CIN G), out · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Bengals 97% · 49ers 3%
- Final margin
- Bengals by 14
- Luck in points
- 4.9 for the Bengals
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Bengals by 9.1
- Replay with same day's form
- Bengals 13% · 49ers 87% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2023 games ·
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