Week 8 2023 · October 29, 2023
Rams at Cowboys, Week 8 2023: who deserved to win?
The Cowboys beat the Rams 43–20, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Cowboys win 8 of 10.
Before kickoff the Cowboys were 68% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 0:43 left): Return touchdown by the Cowboys, worth 17 points of win probability to the Cowboys.
Final
| 20 | |
| 43 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +15 Cowboys about even · −15 Rams
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Rams win 2, Cowboys win 8.
- 1 LA 24 DAL 13
- 2 LA 23 DAL 20
- 3 LA 28 DAL 30
- 4 LA 26 DAL 31
- 5 LA 30 DAL 37
- 6 LA 13 DAL 24
- 7 LA 16 DAL 30
- 8 LA 14 DAL 31
- 9 LA 20 DAL 41
- 10 LA 10 DAL 39
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Rams win 15% of them, Cowboys 85%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Cowboys by 23.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Rams by 17+ | 0.8% |
| Rams by 9–16 | 4.0% |
| Rams by 1–8 | 9.5% |
| Level after regulation | 1.1% |
| Cowboys by 1–8 | 25.4% |
| Cowboys by 9–16 | 22.8% |
| Cowboys by 17+ | 36.4% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Cowboys by 23. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Cowboys by 15.1.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- L. Havrisik, 33 yds made · 95% expected
- B. Aubrey, 58 yds made · 64% expected
- B. Aubrey, 27 yds made · 98% expected
- L. Havrisik, 47 yds made · 79% expected
When it happened
Cowboys’ chance of winning
As low as 49% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:46 | Illegal Contact on the Rams (Quentin Lake), 6 yardsJudgment calls · 1 flag in 403 snaps before, position avg 1 per 530 | +7% DAL | DAL: Touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 10:30 | The Cowboys converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 38% expected | +6% DAL | DAL: Touchdown |
| 3 | Q1 7:23 | The Rams converted 3rd & 113rd & 4th downs · 26% expected | +9% LA | LA: Field goal |
| 4 | Q1 6:04 | The Rams were stopped on 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 28% expected | +3% DAL | LA: Field goal |
| 5 | Q1 1:34 | The Cowboys were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 47% expected | +6% LA | DAL: Field goal |
| 6 | Q1 0:48 | B. Aubrey made 58-yard field goalKicks · 64% expected for him, 3 of 3 from 45+ before | +7% DAL | DAL: Opp touchdown |
| 7 | Q1 0:43 | The Rams threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 51% expected to stay out of the defense's handsReturn touchdown by the CowboysSpecial teams | +17% DAL | LA: Safety |
| 8 | Q2 14:26 | The Rams were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 51% expected | +3% DAL | LA: Safety |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Trevon Diggs (DAL CB), out (IR) · 1.2 pts
- Tyron Smith (DAL T), out · 1.2 pts
- Leighton Vander Esch (DAL LB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Rob Havenstein (LA T), out · 1.0 pts
- Kyren Williams (LA RB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Rams 1% · Cowboys 99%
- Final margin
- Cowboys by 23
- Luck in points
- 7.9 for the Cowboys
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Cowboys by 15.1
- Replay with same day's form
- Rams 15% · Cowboys 85% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 8 2023 games ·
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- Falcons at Titans TEN 28–23 · replay 48% for the winner
- Texans at Panthers CAR 15–13 · replay 44% for the winner
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- Vikings at Packers MIN 24–10 · replay 93% for the winner
- Patriots at Dolphins MIA 31–17 · replay 96% for the winner
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- Jets at Giants NYJ 13–10 · replay 68% for the winner
- Eagles at Commanders PHI 38–31 · replay 41% for the winner
- Browns at Seahawks SEA 24–20 · replay 43% for the winner
- Ravens at Cardinals BAL 31–24 · replay 65% for the winner
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