Week 9 2023 · November 6, 2023
Chargers at Jets, Week 9 2023: who deserved to win?
The Chargers beat the Jets 27–6 and were the better team on the day: replayed with the same form, they win 8 of 10. The Jets had the bounces: drops alone were worth 3.3 points to the Jets.
Before kickoff the Chargers were 59% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 6:35 left): the Jets were stopped on 3rd & 3, worth 17 points of win probability to the Chargers.
Final
| 27 | |
| 6 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +22 Chargers about even · −22 Jets
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Chargers win 8, Jets win 2.
- 1 LAC 34 NYJ 6
- 2 LAC 30 NYJ 9
- 3 LAC 25 NYJ 7
- 4 LAC 24 NYJ 10
- 5 LAC 22 NYJ 10
- 6 LAC 20 NYJ 13
- 7 LAC 13 NYJ 7
- 8 LAC 9 NYJ 6
- 9 LAC 6 NYJ 10
- 10 LAC 13 NYJ 26
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Chargers win 78% of them, Jets 22%, counting the 2% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Chargers by 21.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Chargers by 17+ | 31.6% |
| Chargers by 9–16 | 21.6% |
| Chargers by 1–8 | 23.5% |
| Level after regulation | 2.4% |
| Jets by 1–8 | 12.3% |
| Jets by 9–16 | 6.8% |
| Jets by 17+ | 1.9% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Chargers by 21. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Chargers by 16.2.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- G. Zuerlein, 47 yds made · 76% expected
- C. Dicker, 55 yds made · 65% expected
- G. Zuerlein, 46 yds made · 78% expected
- C. Dicker, 38 yds made · 91% expected
When it happened
Jets’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 65%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:35 | Return touchdown by the ChargersSpecial teams | +16% LAC | LAC: Opp touchdown |
| 2 | Q1 10:52 | The Chargers fumbled and recovered it themselvesFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% LAC | LAC: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 8:13 | The Jets converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 31% expected | +6% NYJ | NYJ: Turnover |
| 4 | Q1 6:35 | The Jets were stopped on 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 45% expectedThe Jets fumbled and the Chargers recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +17% LAC | NYJ: Punt |
| 5 | Q1 5:14 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 63rd & 4th downs · 35% expected | +6% LAC | LAC: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 1:14 | The Chargers got away with an interception-worthy throwInterceptions · 45% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +4% LAC | LAC: Punt |
| 7 | Q3 5:51 | The Jets converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 67% expected | +7% NYJ | NYJ: Punt |
| 8 | Q3 2:08 | The Chargers converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 29% expected | +6% LAC | LAC: Field goal |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Duane Brown (NYJ T), out (IR) · 1.0 pts
- Connor McGovern (NYJ C), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Alijah Vera-Tucker (NYJ G), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
- Mike Williams (LAC WR), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Corey Linsley (LAC C), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Josh Palmer (LAC WR), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Chargers 99% · Jets 1%
- Final margin
- Chargers by 21
- Luck in points
- 4.8 for the Chargers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Chargers by 16.2
- Replay with same day's form
- Chargers 78% · Jets 22% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2023 games ·
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