Week 9 2023 · November 5, 2023
Cardinals at Browns, Week 9 2023: who deserved to win?
The Browns beat the Cardinals 27–0, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Browns win 10 of 10. The Cardinals had the bounces: kicks alone were worth 2.1 points to the Cardinals.
Before kickoff the Browns were 83% favorites. The biggest swing (Q1, 3:46 left): the Browns were stopped on 4th & 3, worth 14 points of win probability to the Cardinals.
Final
| 0 | |
| 27 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +1 Browns about even · −1 Cardinals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Cardinals win 0, Browns win 10.
- 1 ARI 22 CLE 25
- 2 ARI 13 CLE 19
- 3 ARI 6 CLE 17
- 4 ARI 3 CLE 17
- 5 ARI 0 CLE 17
- 6 ARI 10 CLE 30
- 7 ARI 6 CLE 29
- 8 ARI 13 CLE 38
- 9 ARI 6 CLE 35
- 10 ARI 0 CLE 36
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Cardinals win 1% of them, Browns 99%. The line is what actually happened: Browns by 27.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Cardinals by 17+ | 0.0% |
| Cardinals by 9–16 | 0.1% |
| Cardinals by 1–8 | 0.6% |
| Level after regulation | 0.2% |
| Browns by 1–8 | 2.9% |
| Browns by 9–16 | 10.9% |
| Browns by 17+ | 85.3% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Browns by 27. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Browns by 24.9.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- D. Hopkins, 30 yds made · 96% expected
- D. Hopkins, 45 yds made · 80% expected
- D. Hopkins, 48 yds missed · 75% expected
When it happened
Browns’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 10:35 | The Browns converted 3rd & 23rd & 4th downs · 57% expected | +4% CLE | CLE: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 9:59 | Offensive Holding on the Browns, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +5% ARI | ARI: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 7:16 | The Cardinals were stopped on 3rd & 123rd & 4th downs · 18% expectedT. Jones dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 10 catchable balls before this | +7% CLE | ARI: Punt |
| 4 | Q1 3:46 | The Browns were stopped on 4th & 33rd & 4th downs · 48% expectedJ. Akins dropped a catchable passDrops · 1 drops on 44 catchable balls before this | +14% ARI | CLE: Field goal |
| 5 | Q2 13:38 | Face Mask on the Browns (Jordan Elliott), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 8 flags in 1972 snaps before, position avg 1 per 316 | +5% ARI | ARI: Turnover |
| 6 | Q2 13:16 | The Cardinals threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 46% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +5% CLE | ARI: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 11:28 | The Browns converted 4th & 13rd & 4th downs · 70% expected | +6% CLE | CLE: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q2 5:36 | Offensive Pass Interference on the Cardinals (Marquise Brown), 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 8 flags in 3757 snaps before, position avg 1 per 420 | +7% CLE | CLE: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Donovan Peoples-Jones (CLE WR), out · 0.8 pts
- Zach Ertz (ARI TE), out (IR) · 0.8 pts
- Michael Wilson (ARI WR), out · 0.7 pts
- Kei'Trel Clark (ARI CB), out · 0.4 pts
- James Conner (ARI RB), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Elijah Wilkinson (ARI G), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Cardinals 0% · Browns 100%
- Final margin
- Browns by 27
- Luck in points
- 2.1 for the Browns
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Browns by 24.9
- Replay with same day's form
- Cardinals 1% · Browns 99% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2023 games ·
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