Week 9 2023 · November 5, 2023
Seahawks at Ravens, Week 9 2023: who deserved to win?
The Ravens beat the Seahawks 37–3, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Ravens win 10 of 10.
Before kickoff the Ravens were 67% favorites. The biggest swing (Q2, 12:11 left): the Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 4, worth 10 points of win probability to the Ravens.
Final
| 3 | |
| 37 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +2 Ravens about even · −2 Seahawks
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Seahawks win 0, Ravens win 10.
- 1 SEA 13 BAL 17
- 2 SEA 18 BAL 27
- 3 SEA 28 BAL 40
- 4 SEA 21 BAL 36
- 5 SEA 21 BAL 40
- 6 SEA 17 BAL 38
- 7 SEA 17 BAL 42
- 8 SEA 6 BAL 35
- 9 SEA 7 BAL 41
- 10 SEA 3 BAL 42
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Seahawks win 2% of them, Ravens 98%. The line is what actually happened: Ravens by 34.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Seahawks by 17+ | 0.0% |
| Seahawks by 9–16 | 0.4% |
| Seahawks by 1–8 | 1.4% |
| Level after regulation | 0.2% |
| Ravens by 1–8 | 4.5% |
| Ravens by 9–16 | 12.2% |
| Ravens by 17+ | 81.4% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Ravens by 34. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Ravens by 23.4.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- J. Myers, 33 yds made · 94% expected
- J. Tucker, 37 yds made · 92% expected
- J. Tucker, 45 yds made · 84% expected
- J. Tucker, 31 yds made · 97% expected
When it happened
Ravens’ chance of winning
Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 13:38 | The Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expectedJ. Smith-Njigba dropped a catchable passDrops · 2 drops on 26 catchable balls before this | +9% BAL | SEA: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 11:48 | O. Beckham dropped a catchable passDrops · 0 drops on 14 catchable balls before this | +4% SEA | BAL: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 8:58 | The Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +5% BAL | SEA: Punt |
| 4 | Q1 5:11 | The Seahawks converted 3rd & 33rd & 4th downs · 49% expected | +4% SEA | SEA: Punt |
| 5 | Q1 1:20 | The Ravens converted 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 41% expected | +4% BAL | BAL: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q2 12:11 | The Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 43rd & 4th downs · 43% expectedThe Seahawks threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 52% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +10% BAL | SEA: Punt |
| 7 | Q2 10:43 | The Ravens fumbled and the Seahawks recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +5% SEA | BAL: Touchdown |
| 8 | Q2 0:38 | The Seahawks were stopped on 3rd & 213rd & 4th downs · 14% expectedThe Seahawks fumbled and the Ravens recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% BAL | SEA: End of half |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Morgan Moses (BAL T), out · 0.9 pts
- Ar'Darius Washington (BAL FS), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Marcus Williams (BAL FS), out · 0.3 pts
- Abraham Lucas (SEA T), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Coby Bryant (SEA CB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Anthony Bradford (SEA G), out · 0.3 pts
- Uchenna Nwosu (SEA LB), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Seahawks 0% · Ravens 100%
- Final margin
- Ravens by 34
- Luck in points
- 10.6 for the Ravens
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Ravens by 23.4
- Replay with same day's form
- Seahawks 2% · Ravens 98% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 9 2023 games ·
Seahawks ·
Ravens
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