Week 5 2025 · October 5, 2025
Dolphins at Panthers, Week 5 2025: who deserved to win?
The Panthers beat the Dolphins 27–24, and the replays lean their way: with the same day's form, they win 6 of 10. The Dolphins had the bounces: fumble bounces alone were worth 9 points of win probability to the Dolphins.
Before kickoff the Dolphins were 54% favorites. The biggest swing (Q4, 3:31 left): the Panthers converted 4th & 5, worth 28 points of win probability to the Panthers.
Final
| 24 | |
| 27 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +38 Panthers lucky · −38 Dolphins
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Dolphins win 4, Panthers win 6.
- 1 MIA 33 CAR 14
- 2 MIA 27 CAR 16
- 3 MIA 27 CAR 22
- 4 MIA 22 CAR 20
- 5 MIA 12 CAR 15
- 6 MIA 10 CAR 16
- 7 MIA 20 CAR 30
- 8 MIA 3 CAR 16
- 9 MIA 3 CAR 20
- 10 MIA 10 CAR 37
Your call
Did the Panthers earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Dolphins win 38% of them, Panthers 62%, counting the 3% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Panthers by 3.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Dolphins by 17+ | 5.9% |
| Dolphins by 9–16 | 10.9% |
| Dolphins by 1–8 | 21.3% |
| Level after regulation | 2.9% |
| Panthers by 1–8 | 26.2% |
| Panthers by 9–16 | 16.7% |
| Panthers by 17+ | 16.1% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
The kicks
How likely each kicker was to make that kick (his own record, the distance and the weather), and what happened.
- R. Patterson, 43 yds made · 83% expected
- R. Fitzgerald, 35 yds made · 93% expected
- R. Fitzgerald, 49 yds made · 71% expected
Penalties: Dolphins 9 for 64 yards, Panthers 8 for 46 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 7:35 | Defensive Holding on the Dolphins (Jack Jones), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +2% MIA +0.4 pts |
| Q2 14:01 | Defensive Offside on the Panthers (Derrick Brown), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% MIA +0.2 pts |
| Q2 10:07 | False Start on the Panthers (Xavier Legette), 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% MIA +0.5 pts |
| Q2 0:58 | Illegal Formation on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +2% MIA +0.6 pts |
| Q2 0:28 | False Start on the Panthers (Tommy Tremble), 6 yards · pre-snap | +2% MIA +0.5 pts |
| Q2 0:07 | False Start on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% MIA +0.2 pts |
| Q3 14:01 | Delay of Game on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% MIA +0.6 pts |
| Q3 11:26 | Offensive Holding on the Dolphins, 10 yards, wiping out the play | +9% CAR +2.5 pts |
| Q3 7:24 | Delay of Game on the Panthers, 5 yards · pre-snap | +6% MIA +0.7 pts |
| Q4 13:29 | Illegal Formation on the Dolphins, 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% CAR +0.5 pts |
| Q4 10:12 | Illegal Use of Hands on the Dolphins (Matthew Butler), 5 yards | +1% CAR +0.8 pts |
| Q4 7:53 | Hip Drop Tackle on the Dolphins (Chop Robinson), 14 yards | +4% CAR +1.0 pts |
| Q4 7:49 | Defensive Holding on the Dolphins (Jack Jones), 5 yards | +2% CAR +0.3 pts |
| Q4 4:42 | Illegal Formation on the Dolphins (Minkah Fitzpatrick), 5 yards · pre-snap | +4% CAR +0.4 pts |
| Q4 4:36 | Offensive Holding on the Panthers (Thomas Incoom), 10 yards | +1% MIA +0.9 pts |
| Q4 4:31 | Defensive Holding on the Dolphins (Zach Sieler), 5 yards | +3% CAR +0.9 pts |
| Q4 0:55 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Dolphins (Jack Jones), 10 yards | +1% CAR +0.3 pts |
Dolphins penalties, every game · Panthers penalties, every game · All teams, 2025
When it happened
Panthers’ chance of winning
As low as 12% and as high as 100%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 8:13 | The Panthers converted 3rd & 83rd & 4th downs · 32% expected | +9% CAR | CAR: Turnover |
| 2 | Q1 6:37 | The Panthers fumbled and the Dolphins recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +9% MIA | CAR: Turnover |
| 3 | Q1 3:12 | The Dolphins converted 4th & 53rd & 4th downs · 44% expected | +9% MIA | MIA: Touchdown |
| 4 | Q3 11:26 | Offensive Holding on the Dolphins, 10 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls | +9% CAR | CAR: Punt |
| 5 | Q4 3:36 | The Panthers were stopped on 3rd & 53rd & 4th downs · 42% expected | +9% MIA | CAR: Touchdown |
| 6 | Q4 3:31 | The Panthers converted 4th & 53rd & 4th downs · 43% expected | +28% CAR | CAR: Touchdown |
| 7 | Q4 1:54 | J. Waddle dropped a catchable passDrops · 16 drops on 268 catchable balls before this | +14% CAR | MIA: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 1:46 | The Dolphins were stopped on 3rd & 103rd & 4th downs · 30% expected | +13% CAR | MIA: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Jalen Coker (CAR WR), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Ja'Tavion Sanders (CAR TE), out · 0.5 pts
- Robert Hunt (CAR G), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
- Austin Corbett (CAR C), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Chuba Hubbard (CAR RB), out · 0.3 pts
- Chau Smith-Wade (CAR CB), out · 0.2 pts
- Tyreek Hill (MIA WR), out (IR) · 1.5 pts
- Kader Kohou (MIA CB), out (IR) · 0.5 pts
- Jason Sanders (MIA K), out (IR) · 0.4 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Dolphins 63% · Panthers 37%
- Final margin
- Panthers by 3
- Luck in points
- 5.0 for the Panthers
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Dolphins by 2.0
- Replay with same day's form
- Dolphins 38% · Panthers 62% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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