Week 5 2025 · October 5, 2025
Lions at Bengals, Week 5 2025: who deserved to win?
The Lions beat the Bengals 37–24, and it was no fluke: replayed with the way both teams actually played, the Lions win 10 of 10. The Bengals had the bounces: judgment calls alone were worth 6.8 points to the Bengals.
Before kickoff the Lions were 78% favorites.
Final
| 37 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +4 Lions about even · −4 Bengals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Lions win 10, Bengals win 0.
- 1 DET 45 CIN 10
- 2 DET 33 CIN 3
- 3 DET 48 CIN 23
- 4 DET 38 CIN 17
- 5 DET 41 CIN 24
- 6 DET 23 CIN 7
- 7 DET 20 CIN 7
- 8 DET 31 CIN 21
- 9 DET 27 CIN 20
- 10 DET 23 CIN 20
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Lions win 96% of them, Bengals 4%, counting the 1% still level after regulation as half each. The line is what actually happened: Lions by 13.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Lions by 17+ | 73.5% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 16.4% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 6.6% |
| Level after regulation | 0.7% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 1.8% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 0.8% |
| Bengals by 17+ | 0.2% |
Where the luck was
Take the luck out
The final margin was Lions by 13. Remove the luck, one kind at a time, and it becomes Lions by 23.0.
When it happened
Bengals’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 57%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 9:57 | Defensive Offside on the Lions (Aidan Hutchinson), 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags · 5 flags in 2699 snaps before, position avg 1 per 304 | +5% CIN | CIN: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 9:36 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Lions (Kerby Joseph), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 7 flags in 3705 snaps before, position avg 1 per 467 | +4% CIN | CIN: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 8:59 | The Bengals were stopped on 3rd & 153rd & 4th downs · 20% expectedFalse Start on the Bengals, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +6% DET | CIN: Punt |
| 4 | Q1 4:56 | The Lions fumbled and the Bengals recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% CIN | DET: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 14:49 | The Bengals threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · 50% expected to stay out of the defense's hands | +4% DET | CIN: Punt |
| 6 | Q2 0:03 | E. McPherson made 50-yard field goalKicks · 72% expected for him, 42 of 59 from 45+ before | +4% CIN | CIN: Turnover |
| 7 | Q3 12:03 | Offensive Holding on the Lions, 10 yardsJudgment calls | +3% CIN | CIN: Punt |
| 8 | Q4 10:31 | The Bengals converted 3rd & 143rd & 4th downs · 20% expected | +3% CIN | CIN: Touchdown |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Joe Burrow (CIN QB), out (IR), replaced by j.browning · 4.9 pts
- Cordell Volson (CIN G), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Taylor Decker (DET T), out · 1.1 pts
- D.J. Reed (DET CB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Levi Onwuzurike (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Marcus Davenport (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Lions 100% · Bengals 0%
- Final margin
- Lions by 13
- Luck in points
- 10.0 for the Bengals
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Lions by 23.0
- Replay with same day's form
- Lions 96% · Bengals 4% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
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