Week 5 2025 · October 5, 2025
Lions at Bengals, Week 5 2025: who deserved to win?
The Lions beat the Bengals 37–24, and the replays back it up: with the way both teams actually played, the Lions win 10 of 10.
Before kickoff the Lions were 78% favorites.
Final
| 37 | |
| 24 |
Replay with same day's form
Luck index +1 Lions about even · −1 Bengals
Each team’s own plays from this game, resampled into new drives 4,000 times: with the way both teams actually played, how often does this performance win? How the replay works
Ten replays. Lions win 10, Bengals win 0.
- 1 DET 37 CIN 0
- 2 DET 37 CIN 7
- 3 DET 41 CIN 14
- 4 DET 23 CIN 0
- 5 DET 30 CIN 10
- 6 DET 40 CIN 22
- 7 DET 37 CIN 22
- 8 DET 30 CIN 18
- 9 DET 24 CIN 16
- 10 DET 23 CIN 20
Your call
Did the Lions earn it, or get lucky?
Three other ways to ask
Each answers a different question, so none of them replaces the replay above.
Before kickoff
The closing betting line, turned into a probability. What everyone knew before the game.
Same teams, fresh game
The line plus what this game showed, weighted by how much one game can tell. It stays close to the line because one game says little.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Every kick, fumble bounce, drop, conversion and judgment call redrawn; everything else fixed. The narrowest view of luck.
How 4,000 replays ended
Lions win 99% of them, Bengals 1%. The line is what actually happened: Lions by 13.
Show as a table
| Final margin in the replays | Share of replays |
|---|---|
| Lions by 17+ | 81.8% |
| Lions by 9–16 | 13.0% |
| Lions by 1–8 | 3.8% |
| Level after regulation | 0.1% |
| Bengals by 1–8 | 1.1% |
| Bengals by 9–16 | 0.2% |
| Bengals by 17+ | 0.0% |
Where the luck was
What the luck was worth
Every lucky and unlucky play, weighted by the moment it happened: its swing in win probability, added up by kind. A missed kick in a decided game counts for nothing; the same kick at the end of a tie game can be most of a win.
Penalties: Lions 8 for 56 yards, Bengals 6 for 30 yards
Every accepted flag, in order, and what it did to the helped team’s chance of winning at that moment, including any play it wiped out (points on the scoreboard in grey). A flag in a decided game is worth nothing; one at the turn of a close game can be worth most of a win. Judgment calls count half toward luck; pre-snap fouls, which repeat, don’t count. How calls are valued
| When | Flag | Win probability for |
|---|---|---|
| Q1 9:57 | Defensive Offside on the Lions (Aidan Hutchinson), 5 yards, wiping out the play · pre-snap | +6% CIN +2.0 pts |
| Q1 9:36 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Lions (Kerby Joseph), 15 yards | +4% CIN +1.8 pts |
| Q1 8:59 | False Start on the Bengals, 5 yards · pre-snap | +3% DET +0.9 pts |
| Q1 3:31 | Illegal Block Above the Waist on the Lions (Grant Stuard), 10 yards | 0% CIN +0.8 pts |
| Q2 13:19 | Defensive Holding on the Bengals (Kris Jenkins), 1 yard | +1% DET +0.5 pts |
| Q2 6:33 | Offensive Holding on the Bengals (Josh Newton), 4 yards | +1% DET +0.3 pts |
| Q2 5:41 | Defensive Holding on the Lions (Terrion Arnold), 5 yards, wiping out the play | +3% CIN +1.0 pts |
| Q2 5:21 | False Start on the Bengals, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% DET +0.6 pts |
| Q2 0:47 | Delay of Game on the Bengals, 5 yards · pre-snap | +1% DET +0.5 pts |
| Q3 12:03 | Offensive Holding on the Lions, 10 yards | +3% CIN +1.7 pts |
| Q3 2:47 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Lions (Terrion Arnold), 2 yards | 0% CIN +0.6 pts |
| Q3 0:39 | Defensive Pass Interference on the Lions (Alex Anzalone), 4 yards | 0% CIN +2.6 pts |
| Q4 14:04 | False Start on the Lions (Jahmyr Gibbs), 5 yards · pre-snap | 0% CIN +0.6 pts |
| Q4 1:49 | Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the Bengals (Ryan Rehkow), 10 yards | 0% DET +0.9 pts |
Lions penalties, every game · Bengals penalties, every game · All teams, 2025
When it happened
Bengals’ chance of winning
As low as 0% and as high as 57%. Numbers mark the biggest luck moments, listed below.
| # | When | What happened | Win probability for | Next drive |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Q1 9:57 | Defensive Offside on the Lions (Aidan Hutchinson), 5 yards, wiping out the playPre-snap flags · 5 flags in 2699 snaps before, position avg 1 per 304 | +6% CIN | CIN: Punt |
| 2 | Q1 9:36 | Unnecessary Roughness on the Lions (Kerby Joseph), 15 yardsJudgment calls · 7 flags in 3705 snaps before, position avg 1 per 467 | +4% CIN | CIN: Punt |
| 3 | Q1 8:59 | The Bengals were stopped on 3rd & 153rd & 4th downs · 21% expectedFalse Start on the Bengals, 5 yardsPre-snap flags | +4% DET | CIN: Punt |
| 4 | Q1 4:56 | The Lions fumbled and the Bengals recoveredFumble bounces · loose balls are close to 50/50 | +6% CIN | DET: Punt |
| 5 | Q2 14:49 | The Bengals threw an interception-worthy pass, and it was pickedInterceptions · defenses catch 54% of interception-worthy throws | +4% DET | CIN: Punt |
| 6 | Q2 5:41 | Defensive Holding on the Lions (Terrion Arnold), 5 yards, wiping out the playJudgment calls · 12 flags in 1206 snaps before, position avg 1 per 213 | +3% CIN | CIN: Turnover |
| 7 | Q2 0:03 | E. McPherson made a 50-yard field goalKicks · 70% expected for him, 42 of 59 from 45+ before | +5% CIN | CIN: Turnover |
| 8 | Q3 12:03 | Offensive Holding on the Lions, 10 yardsJudgment calls | +3% CIN | CIN: Punt |
Missing players
Key players (usually on the field for half the snaps or more) who missed this game or part of it, valued by position and quality. The same players are missing in every replay, so this counts as luck in points only.
- Joe Burrow (CIN QB), out (IR), replaced by j.browning · 4.9 pts
- Cordell Volson (CIN G), out (IR) · 0.7 pts
- Taylor Decker (DET T), out · 1.1 pts
- D.J. Reed (DET CB), out (IR) · 0.6 pts
- Levi Onwuzurike (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.3 pts
- Marcus Davenport (DET DE), out (IR) · 0.2 pts
Adjust the assumptions
Disagree with how much of a fumble bounce or a pass interference call is luck? Change it and the coin-flip replay reruns in your browser.
Only coin-flips re-rolled
Lions 100% · Bengals 0%
- Final margin
- Lions by 13
- Luck in points
- 9.6 for the Bengals
- Luck-adjusted margin
- Lions by 22.6
- Replay with same day's form
- Lions 99% · Bengals 1% unchanged: why
About these numbers
Play-by-play and win probability from nflfastR via nflverse; kicks valued against each kicker’s own record; drops and interception-worthy throws from FTN charting; injuries from snap counts and injury reports.
Methodology and validation · All Week 5 2025 games ·
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